Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[JimW]

I've been there for the football. Can't recall much though, that was years ago.

 

[butchersapron]

I've been there for the football. Can't recall much though, that was years ago.

Some 6-spoon eye man with a beard meets you. I'm a warlock he says.

 

[JimW]

Are we talking Alan Moore? he's about the only other thing I know about the town.

 

[butchersapron]

Are we talking Alan Moore? he's about the only other thing I know about the town.

You know the civil war stuff?

 

[rekil]

Ronald McDonald = SuperSize-Inquart

Too good.

 

[JimW]

You know the civil war stuff?

Nope, is it some mystic Fifth Monarchy types prophesying in the streets?

 

[DotCommunist]

Are we talking Alan Moore? he's about the only other thing I know about the town.

He lives two doors down from my brother. Saw him in blue wifebeater with his hair tied back an beard trimmed while sticking some shit into a boot. I immediately leapt up and forced a copy of Workers Girder on him....wait no I didn't, I just sat and rolled another spliff while watching 'flog it'

as misleading titles go that one is on par with 'loose women'

 

[imposs1904]

"Every shop and cafe had an inscription saying that it had been collectivised; even the bootblacks had been collectivized and their boxes painted red and black."

Orwell sez Shoeshiners is communism. Fact.

For some daft reason this recent thread derail into the matter of shoeshines made me think of the passage below that I recently read in Manuel Vázquez Montalbán's 1989 novel, 'Off Side':

'People are beginning to want their shoes polished again, Pepe. Shoeshines are doing good business. The young ones, mainly, because I just do my usual customers, and three or four others a day. Why are people wanting their shoes shined, again, Pepino? Have you asked yourself that? You should think about it, because you've got a good brain, and it's worth some thought. If you ask me, things are changing. Everything. And I'm not talking about a change like in the 1940s or the 1950s, or the years when everyone was flush, the sixties and the seventies, up until Franco died. It's another sort of change. I see it from people's attitude to their shoes. For ten years people have been too ashamed to stick their feet under the nose of a shoeshine and say, "There you go, clean them." They didn't mind going to the dentist to get their teeth cleaned. But when it came to cleaning their shoes, they preferred to do it in the privacy of their own homes, with those shoeshine machines that put the likes of me out of a job. For years they all wanted to be so egalitarian, and it wasn't the done thing to have someone else shine your shoes for you. So what's it all about? What's happened is they they're not embarrassed any more, Pepe. So shoeshines are making money again . . . '

Apologies for derailing the derail.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[DaveCinzano]

Apologies for derailing the derail.

The Proletarian Justice is swift and uncompromising when it comes to dealing with saboteurs of the People's Transport Network.

 

[Bakunin]

It seems we're not the only ones who aren't overly keen on LP, as her current Wikipedia entry indicates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Penny

 

[Balbi]

Ok, who did that

 

[rekil]

Dunno, but they did it wrong.

 

[Orang Utan]

Can't see owt?!?

 

[Bakunin]

Must have been deleted.

 

[rekil]

Can't see owt?!?

The page history says someone put in a bit (at 07:44, 3 July 2012) linking to this thread, then an editor or someone undid it 15 mins later. I assume the wiki time is one hour behind so...

 

[Balbi]

Direct ref. to criticism of her style from not just the right, and not just personal abuse with a link to this here thread.

 

[JimW]

The page history says someone put in a bit (at 07:44, 3 July 2012) linking to this thread, then an editor or someone undid it 15 mins later. I assume the wiki time is one hour behind so...

You can see the bit deleted in the compare versions view: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laurie_Penny&diff=500453420&oldid=500452198
Refers to this thread, basically
ETA Or, what Balbi just said and I missed completely.

 

[Balbi]

LOL @ 'activist underground' Makes us sound like Trot moles.

 

[rekil]

Crabapple's wiki appears to be her own press releases stitched together willy nilly. Are there no rules against this sort of wank?

"Spurred by a desire to de-sterilize the buttoned-up art school scene"
"Molly’s brand of off-grid entrepreneurship"
"it comes as no surprise that Crabapple’s celebrity fans include..."

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's the DIY ethos, man!

 

[smokedout]

Ok, who did that

johann wants his job back.

 

[Bakunin]

The edit is back up now.

 

[butchersapron]

Crabapple's wiki appears to be her own press releases stitched together willy nilly. Are there no rules against this sort of wank?

"Spurred by a desire to de-sterilize the buttoned-up art school scene"
"Molly’s brand of off-grid entrepreneurship"
"it comes as no surprise that Crabapple’s celebrity fans include..."

Wow, every single cliche from the the beatniks to bill gates regurgitated as personality. the spectacle has entered these peoples souls.

 

[belboid]

The edit is back up now.

It wont be for long. Whoever reposted it could at least have paid attention to the reason it was taken down ('Forums are not a reliable source') and found a relevant source to use instead.

 

[love detective]

She's got a touch of the Hari about her according to this

(sorry if this has already been posted way back)

 

[Balbi]

Wow, every single cliche from the the beatniks to bill gates regurgitated as personality. the spectacle has entered these peoples souls.

Should have gone to specsavers

 

[DaveCinzano]

Should have gone to specsavers

This is doing my head in - I know I posted that self-same quip a while back, but I can't find it.

Have you brain-drained me, Balbi? Have you? HAVE YOU?!

 

[SpineyNorman]

when i get my tattoos i will be sure to show lletsa immediately

I'm going to get a tattoo of LLETSA'a face. On my face.

 

[rekil]

I'm going to get a tattoo of LLETSA'a face. On my face.

Tattoo this whole thread on your face. Then get Lletsa's face on the back of your head.