Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[DotCommunist]

anyway, laurie has gone from a tiny little column to a full page in the independent.

a full page in the indy, well it may be an earner but leave your principles at the door before you check in. The fucking indy- I was young and foolish enough to cheer their 'legalize cannabis' stuff then genuinley gutted when they u-turned into 'oh no, this isn't the bits we smoked at uni folks, this is schizo-inducing SUPERSKUNK'
wankers

all the more because I know older smokers of herb and they all told me 'utter bollocks, you just had better hash back then, leb and squidge' and 'the only good green was thai, there were none of these homegrown femminized from seed jobbies- we knew bushweed when we saw it'

and while there may be an element of 'we walked over broken glass to school in barefoot and when we got there sir beat us fo it and we were grateful, kids thse days'

it does not make the shite peddled by the indy any less amazingly fucking false.

 

[imposs1904]

Like this.

In a capitalist world, smoking is a little sub-economy of communism. You share cigarettes, matches, lighters, papers. When strangers come up to you in the street and ask you for a cigarette, you give them one, because you understand. I once gave a homeless man half a Lucky Strike out of my own mouth, even though he was wearing a Libertarian T-shirt.

I think that's my quote of the year.

 

[butchersapron]

Note the choice/placement/advert of 'lucky strike'. Barthes would have a field day.

 

[killer b]

is it 25 grand then? doesn't sound that much for a full page in a national newspaper, even if it is the indie.

 

[butchersapron]

is it 25 grand then? doesn't sound that much for a full page in a national newspaper, even if it is the indie.

Jones is on that - both signed same week...

 

[killer b]

crikey. guess at least it's a leg up to get on the moral maze and the like if nothing else...

 

[DaveCinzano]

is it 25 grand then? doesn't sound that much for a full page in a national newspaper, even if it is the indie.

Laptop's thing on freelance rates - per 1,000 words (the more Xes, the more underpaid):

Independent travel piece _INM 2012

200 X
Independent _INM 2012

200 XX
Independent feature, no expenses, syndication pays 50/50 _INM 2012

150 XXX
Independent feature, no expenses all rights _INM 2012

300
Independent _Lebedev 2012

200 XXX
Independent family section - 1300 words @ £300 _Lebedev 2010

231 X
Independent _Lebedev 2010

200 X
Independent _Lebedev 2010

231 X
Independent FBS _INM 2010

200

http://www.londonfreelance.org/rates/w1000new.html

 

[DaveCinzano]

crikey. guess at least it's a leg up to get on the moral maze and the like if nothing else...

Good grief, could you imagine Laura, David & Claire on together, EVERY FUCKING WEEK?

 

[DotCommunist]

you can't buy luckies in normal people shops. Not round here. You have to go to specialist tobacconist shops to get them imported smokes. And they taste fucking average. Mind you, there are these new lambert and butlers that have a menthol tab in the but, you just squeeze it and lo! menthol

can't report on how they taste firsthand cos I just smoked it. I'm told its like bubblegum. Stop smoking if you don't like the flavour

 

[rekil]

She'll be looking to syndicate this crap, that's where the money is, also I suspect it's more about building connections at this stage anyway. Lots of opportunities once labour get back in probably.

 

[DaveCinzano]

you can't buy luckies in normal people shops. Not round here.

No Tescos in the Midlands then?

 

[Bakunin]

and it doesn't even have to be about politics - just write some guff about the smoking ban or similar.

If I may deliver to LP the following message on behalf of those of us everywhere who still actively enjoy a smoke or two during the average day:

 

[DotCommunist]

No Tescos in the Midlands then?

I live 2 minutes walk from the local tescos, theres no Lucky Strikes stocke there. I'm sure they'd get them in if I was hungry for them and asked. Also- deckard smoked luckies. The bladerunner pc game said so

 

[butchersapron]

No Tescos in the Midlands then?

It's the choice not the availability that says it all.

 

[killer b]

actually thinking about it 25 grand isn't so bad. it's not as if she'll be working a 37.5 hour week to turn out those 500 words is it? she'll knock 'em out overnight the night before deadline. certainly reads like she does anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

I do more than that first thing in the morning on here and it's a) read by more b) better

 

[andy2002]

you can't buy luckies in normal people shops. Not round here. You have to go to specialist tobacconist shops to get them imported smokes.

I assumed the Lucky Strikes reference was just a clever and/or pretentious way of dropping the fact she's been spending time in America into the article.

 

[killer b]

luckies are my choice smoke. the shame.

 

[rekil]

I once did 1200 words on the opening of a sewage treatment plant for a shit mag. Where's my random house e-book deal?

 

[DaveCinzano]

actually thinking about it 25 grand isn't so bad.

It's 5x better than freelances at the same paper!

 

[DaveCinzano]

I assumed the Lucky Strikes reference was just a clever and/or pretentious way of dropping the fact she's been spending time in America into the article.

For anyone who never heard the Ryan Gosling lie story.

 

[killer b]

It's 5x better than freelances at the same paper!

i worked that out now. i was thinking about it in terms of a f/t job rather than a couple of hours a week...

 

[butchersapron]

I like the obit rates - i can do that.

 

[rekil]

When you offer to make your cleaner a cup of darjeeling, that's a bit communism as well.

 

[butchersapron]

When you offer to make your cleaner a cup of darjeeling, that's a bit communism as well.

When you let the au-pair eat in the same room as you - that's a little bit communism too.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I like the obit rates - i can do that.

And if work dries up, I'm sure we can collectively agree on who to pump-prime...

 

[butchersapron]

And if work dries up, I'm sure we can collectively agree on who to pump-prime...

Job-for-life.

 

[butchersapron]

When you don't know anyone working class - that's a little bit communism. Beyond the barriers that separate us.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Job-for-life.

Basically, everyone is a winner.

COMMUNISM IN ACTION!

 

[butchersapron]

When Kate Winslet wins an oscar and thanks other people - that's a little bit communism.