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fela fan said:
An aeroplane. The one we saw on the telly like.

Now it's my turn, straight question: how do you think one of the hijacker's passports survived that inferno without even a tiny burn mark?

Any chance of a straight answer?

How is it that a tornado can impale a single stalk of hay into a tree trunk?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
How is it that a tornado can impale a single stalk of hay into a tree trunk?

Not a fucking clue mate. [You gonna enlighten me?]

But at least you gave me a very bent answer, i'm still waiting for editor's straight answer.
 
fela fan said:
Not a fucking clue mate. [You gonna enlighten me?]

But at least you gave me a very bent answer, i'm still waiting for editor's straight answer.

But your answer to my question, is the same as my, and possibly the editor's answer to yours.

"Not a fucking clue"

But my dearth of knowledge doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
 
Raisin D'etre said:
We do not know. Do you?
So you have no idea at all? You can't even offer a wild guess? Nothing at all? You have absolutely no opinion on the subject at all?

How strange. Why are you bothering to post here then?
 
fela fan said:
Now it's my turn, straight question: how do you think one of the hijacker's passports survived that inferno without even a tiny burn mark?

Any chance of a straight answer?
"I've no idea" is my straight answer.

It's not unheard of for small objects - or even people sometimes - to survive catastrophic plane crashes though.

Any more questions?
 
fela fan said:
An aeroplane. The one we saw on the telly like.
Ah? You mean the hijacked passenger plane and not some remote control pretend plane firing invisible missiles as some evidenced-untroubled types have suggested here?

Now we're getting somewhere!
 
editor said:
blah blah blah blah... Every fucking time, it's the same old story: bonkers sites linking to even more bonkers sites. How the fuck are sane people taken in my these fruitloops?

So, unable to counter the photographic evidence that so eloquently contradicts the NIST computer simulation, you resort instead to your trusty tactic of doing a rubbishing job on the site from where the images were taken.

Well, if you don't like that site then here's another one I googled at random containing similar images of the aviation fuel fireball OUTSIDE tower 2. Its a good one this, because you can also see that the impact location is nowhere near the centre of the building as the NIST simulation puts it. See what you think. If you're not happy give us a shout and I'll google another one up randomly for you.

NY911n21.jpg
 
editor said:
Ah? You mean the hijacked passenger plane and not some remote control pretend plane firing invisible missiles as some evidenced-untroubled types have suggested here?

Now we're getting somewhere!

Good lord man. Getting somewhere??? This has been my line from day one. Don't tell me you've only just discovered this? I'm sorry, but i have great difficulty in believing a missile or any other such stuff you drone on about hit those two towers. Obviously two planes did.
 
editor said:
"I've no idea" is my straight answer.

It's not unheard of for small objects - or even people sometimes - to survive catastrophic plane crashes though.

Any more questions?

Are you suggesting that people have survived fireballs like that? Surely not...?

And a document surviving it!!!! And one that just happens to be one of the hijacker's, not the crew or passengers.

You just couldn't make this kind of conspiracy up.

Whoops, wait a minute, isn't that the version the USG gave us?
 
slaar said:
Bigfish, for that argument to have even a shred of plausibility you'd have to show us stills of the moment the jet hit the building, along with where it hit, and where the fuel fireball went; we've no idea in those photos how close the jet is to the building or how fast it''s turning.

Maybe this sequence of shots can help you slaar.

http://www.solcomhouse.com/635083.gif
(editor: enourmous image removed)

Notice how the aircraft banks to port before slamming into the building and then the huge fireball?
 
I haven't bothered reading this thread. But I gather cos it's 20 pages long and rising it's been hijacked by the CTers to trot out their pet theories for the hundredth time.

BIN PLEASE!
 
Loki said:
I haven't bothered reading this thread. But I gather cos it's 20 pages long and rising it's been hijacked by the CTers to trot out their pet theories for the hundredth time.

BIN PLEASE!

I'm going to have to agree with loki. :D

Don't you just love it. :D
 
Ooh, look, its the howling hoard answering the call yelping for the thread to get binned. Isn't marvelous!

Tell me Loki, do you watch endless reruns of Songs of Praise on a Sunday evening on your video and then write to the BBC demanding they bin the show?

No! Well you should. It's the sought of activity a guy like you will get a kick out of.

PS Tell em' to bin their 6 and 10 o'clock nightly "news" sermons while your at it will you... they're really crap. Oh and Newsnight too, I'm completely sick of listening of Jeremy Spudwank and his Oxbridge toad chums telling humungous porkies about the war in Iraq. Thanks.
 
Ooh look, captain Loki of the Swedish thought police has got a spanking new bin to show us all... isn't it marvelous.
 
bigfish said:
Ooh look, captain Loki of the Swedish thought police has got a spanking new bin to show us all... isn't it marvelous.
er, was that meant to be wit?

You know full well the bin is chockful of CTers like yourself spouting the same pet theories over and over and over and over again. The reason they're in the bin is to remind people like you that it's been discussed to death already, hundreds of times over.

Can't you get the message?
 
bigfish said:
Ooh, look, its the howling hoard answering the call yelping for the thread to get binned. Isn't marvelous!

Tell me Loki, do you watch endless reruns of Songs of Praise on a Sunday evening on your video and then write to the BBC demanding they bin the show?

Seeing as I'm an atheist and find pretty much every christian ceremony boring as fuck, no I don't watch them. But neither do I witter to the BBC because some people like that sort of stuff. Urban75 isn't the BBC though.

The difference here is it's a handful of conspiraloons like yourself who take every opportunity to raise the same fucking issues even though they've been discussed to death and your daft theories proved wrong, time and time and time again.

Why don't you find a dedicated CT forum so you CTers can all agree with eachother and leave the rest of us alone?
 
Loki said:
The difference here is it's a handful of conspiraloons like yourself...

Hang on a minute! Aren't you one of those believers who thinks that 19 Arab blokes turned over a fucking super-power with box-cutters?

It looks to me as though you're suffering from conspiraloneritus in its most accute and advanced form, dull repetition and your attempts at projecting your "illness" on to those who refuse to accept idiotic theories like the one above are the symptoms to watch out for.
 
Loki said:


although there's alot of well-researched non-CT background here re. Bin Laden's organisation, the afghani pipeline 'fight' between an argentinian and US oil company, and a few other relevant but non-CT facts re. 'Al Qaeda', i agree that the thread has taken a nose-dive.

Lovely bin, btw Loki.
 
Loki said:
The difference here is it's a handful of conspiraloons like yourself who take every opportunity to raise the same fucking issues even though they've been discussed to death and your daft theories proved wrong, time and time and time again.

Why don't you find a dedicated CT forum so you CTers can all agree with eachother and leave the rest of us alone?

You yourself loki said you'd not read this thread. If you had've done you'd realise that there have been many and varied posters on it, a huge range in fact. There have been plenty of side discussions going on, and many comments about what a good thread it's been. Perhaps in the last couple of pages or so it's gone down a more predictable route, but hey, that's life innit?

Your sudden arrival to call for the bin is actually quite offensive. Well, it's not to me, but it isn't very pleasant to see you popping up with your exceedingly well-worn tune when so many different posters have contributed so much to a good fun thread.

Hey man, guess what, lots of posters've been having FUN on this thread, no doubt that includes editor. You're the only one of the usual crew who've popped along to scream 'BIN'.

Why on earth do you do it? Fun-wrecker!
 
invisibleplanet said:
i agree that the thread has taken a nose-dive.

That is probably inevitable for all long-running threads ip. But it's still been a rare beacon of light in an increasingly dim world...
 
invisibleplanet said:
"But it's still been a rare beacon of light in an increasingly dim world..."
no, i disagree entirely.
i've stayed away from this thread since it went back to the 'manhattan massacre' to go over the same old same old impact issues, at the expense of discussing current AQ/Saudi Terrorism issues.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,1453073,00.html

But it still managed many many pages before that happened. It was indeed a well subscribed thread with many different posters contributing.

That doesn't happen on this forum so often these days. Hence my comment.
 
bigfish said:
And yet, the NIST computer simulation wants us to believe all of the aviation fuel got dumped inside the building... which is very odd indeed, don't you think?
Although I largely agree with your questioning of the angle of attack, I'm going to have to pull you up on this - the NIST animation doesn't simulate anything about the fuel. Fuel distribution was not a parameter in the simulation - the debris you see moving out the other side of the building is metal from the plane.
 
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