9/11 media happenings

[beesonthewhatnow]

This story I am sure it was not discussed here, I am new on this board and I registered with the purpose of posting about it, because the story is new, it appeared just 20 hours ago .
Yes the BBC is in on it, please comment the video not the implications, first look at the evidence then discover the criminal, isn't that how an investigation works ?
I have never seen "news from the future" on tv, but here they are. What more proof would somebody want ?
The video is on google now, maybe they are not involved.

A couple of things.....

1 - Welcome to the boards, dub, fiver etc

2 - You're an idiot

 

[Yossarian]

Do you think that if the government did 9/11 they had no plan for the media ? They would just let the people find out for themselves ?

Exactly - nothing could be left to chance.

It wouldn't be good enough merely to orchestrate the biggest conspiracy and most spectacular terrorist assault in history, with New York landmarks toppling and a massive assault on the Pentagon, they had to make sure the media were in on it too and had the story all ready to go, because I don't think news reporters are usually very interested in that kind of stuff...

 

[Jazzz]

There's a good rebuttal video of much of the 'Conspiracy Files' nonsense recently shown on BBC2 here.

 

[Yossarian]

That's the first time I've ever clicked on one of the videos to a 9/11TruthFest, and quite possibly the last. Are they all made by illiterate retards who think Israel was behind the attacks, or just that particular one?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

There's a good rebuttal video of much of the 'Conspiracy Files' nonsense recently shown on BBC2 here.

Wow, well, what more is there to say?

Case closed, clearly.


Your desperation really is quite tragic to watch Jazzz

 

[pk]

There's a good rebuttal video of much of the 'Conspiracy Files' nonsense recently shown on BBC2 here.

Ah bless... The BBC really did expose you lot as the lying deluded cunts you really are didn't they?

 

[Crispy]

Exactly - nothing could be left to chance.

It wouldn't be good enough merely to orchestrate the biggest conspiracy and most spectacular terrorist assault in history, with New York landmarks toppling and a massive assault on the Pentagon, they had to make sure the media were in on it too and had the story all ready to go, because I don't think news reporters are usually very interested in that kind of stuff...

Well obviously, apart from this one slip-up, the media were a model of fact-based reporting on the day weren't they? Bringing all the important facts and none of the rumours. In fact this is always the case when there's general panic - nobody knows what's going on, but the media is able to filter everything second by second and only tell us what is really happening.

If there really was a media part of the conspiracy, why wasn't there some innocuous news broadcast going on at the time of the first collision, nicely framed with the newscaster in front and the towers behind? That's what I would have done if I had that sort of control.

 

[MikeMcc]

There's a good rebuttal video of much of the 'Conspiracy Files' nonsense recently shown on BBC2 here.

Utter Bollocks. I had to stop by the time I got 8 and a bit minutes into it before I threw something at the monitor.

The cut steel: No shit sherlock, like we haven't seen the pictures of the clean-up crew cuting the steel diagonally...

The conversation between ATC and the military: The person who created the 'rebuttal' swapped the two converstaions. The one with the female voice concerned Flight 93 and the Delta flight that got forced to land, not the initial hijacking.

The interceptors: Why would you send interceptors to a destination, you would want to intercept them before they got there but they didn't know where they were coming from. They also said that 20 min was enough time to intercept (how do they know? It took 76 min to intercept the Payne Stewart Learjet and that had a working transponder...)

The Windsor building: You can't compare it to the WTC, the CONCRETE core survived and the steel framework COLLLAPSED. Imagine that, a steel framework collapsing in a fire...

Stupid, stupid recording that I have wasted time to start watching. It has outright lies about the recordings and rehashes old arguements

 

[pk]

I was chatting to a colleague yesterday, who has worked in frontline news for over 30 years.

He told me the one and only time he'd ever heard of a D notice (government imposed news blackout) and that was during the Falklands, tapes seized and reporters threatened with prison if they ran a certain (true!) story.

He also told me that such a blackout would be impossible now, as the internet would carry it via anonymous sources, and it would make mainstream news that way, like the cockpit film two weeks ago.

 

[pk]

As for the story itself, concerning proof that the US assisted the UK during the Falklands war, I'd be happy to PM the details to interested parties, but not Jazzz, he'd only twist it to blame the Jews or some shit.

 

[editor]

That's the first time I've ever clicked on one of the videos to a 9/11TruthFest, and quite possibly the last. Are they all made by illiterate retards who think Israel was behind the attacks, or just that particular one?

It's a fucking embarrassment. What an utter waste of my time watching that pile of stinking shit was.

 

[Jazzz]

The interceptors: Why would you send interceptors to a destination, you would want to intercept them before they got there but they didn't know where they were coming from. They also said that 20 min was enough time to intercept (how do they know? It took 76 min to intercept the Payne Stewart Learjet and that had a working transponder...)

This seems to be the most detailed article about the Payne Stewart episode - it cites 20mins before interception. Bit confused about this one.

 

[Jazzz]

The conversation between ATC and the military: The person who created the 'rebuttal' swapped the two converstaions. The one with the female voice concerned Flight 93 and the Delta flight that got forced to land, not the initial hijacking.

I don't understand what you mean. How did the 'Conspiracy Files' broadcast them? Did it mix them up or not?

 

[8den]

This seems to be the most detailed article about the Payne Stewart episode - it cites 20mins before interception. Bit confused about this one.

Really why is this account better than other accounts that cite a intercept time of over 80 minutes?

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Really why is this account better than other accounts that cite a intercept time of over 80 minutes?

Because it agrees with Jazzz?

 

[MikeMcc]

This seems to be the most detailed article about the Payne Stewart episode - it cites 20mins before interception. Bit confused about this one.

Yeah, if you ignore the 1 hour change in time zone

 

[MikeMcc]

I don't understand what you mean. How did the 'Conspiracy Files' broadcast them? Did it mix them up or not?

When the first plane was reported hijacked the conversation was the one that asked if it was part of the exercise or real, the 'rebuttal' clip said that was later and that the first one had the woman talking over it. Deliberately swapped by the dip-stick that created it.

 

[Jazzz]

Yeah, if you ignore the 1 hour change in time zone

I'll accept this one. But let's note that Payne Stewart was simply a light aircraft going off course for innocent reasons, yet it was still tracked and the White House informed etc.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

I'll accept this one. But let's note that Payne Stewart was simply a light aircraft going off course for innocent reasons, yet it was still tracked and the White House informed etc.

How do you tell between a hijacking where the plane goes off course with no explanation and an "innocent reason"? Fruitloop.

 

[MikeMcc]

Really why is this account better than other accounts that cite a intercept time of over 80 minutes?

Or even better than the official NTSB accident report!

Link to accident report

At 0933:38 EDT (6 minutes and 20 seconds after N47BA acknowledged the previous clearance), the controller instructed N47BA to change radio frequencies and contact another Jacksonville ARTCC controller. The controller received no response from N47BA. The controller called the flight five more times over the next 4 1/2 minutes but received no response.

About 0952 CDT,7 a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8 nm of N47BA.8 About 0954 CDT, at a range of 2,000 feet from the accident airplane and an altitude of about 46,400 feet

 

[laptop]

Lear 35:

Light aircraft:

 

[8den]

Yeah, if you ignore the 1 hour change in time zone

Oh FFS. These lying toerags should be sued under the trade description act for calling themselves "truth seekers". They are devious underhanded distorters of facts.

 

[editor]

This seems to be the most detailed article about the Payne Stewart episode - it cites 20mins before interception. Bit confused about this one.

Another grrrreat link to a UFO-tastic site from Jazzz!

 

[MikeMcc]

I'll accept this one. But let's note that Payne Stewart was simply a light aircraft going off course for innocent reasons, yet it was still tracked and the White House informed etc.

On 9/11 the FAA guys admit they fucked up and didn't inform NORAD as early as they should have. Plus Stewarts plane still had it's transponder on. On 9/11 they turned those off and flew erratic courses rather than nice straight lines.

 

[fela fan]

On 9/11 they turned those off and flew erratic courses rather than nice straight lines.

Yes, and transponders being turned off, particularly four of them, should have alerted the air traffic controllers immediately. No doubt procedures should then have been followed to alert the relevant bodies or agencies for action to be taken.

None was. No reason for confusion, just four potential hijacked planes.

 

[MikeMcc]

Yes, and transponders being turned off, particularly four of them, should have alerted the air traffic controllers immediately. No doubt procedures should then have been followed to alert the relevant bodies or agencies for action to be taken.

None was. No reason for confusion, just four potential hijacked planes.

Then having to wade through hundreds of primary radar returns to find planes that weren't behaving 'like hijacked planes should'.

 

[fela fan]

Then having to wade through hundreds of primary radar returns to find planes that weren't behaving 'like hijacked planes should'.

But you just said they were flying erratic courses, not in nice straight lines.

Surely that would have alerted them?? I mean, does erratic courses equal normal behaviour of jet planes?

 

[8den]

But you just said they were flying erratic courses, not in nice straight lines.

Surely that would have alerted them?? I mean, does erratic courses equal normal behaviour of jet planes?

Do you know how many planes are over the Eastern SeaBoard, on any given morning?

 

[MikeMcc]

But you just said they were flying erratic courses, not in nice straight lines.

Surely that would have alerted them?? I mean, does erratic courses equal normal behaviour of jet planes?

That was part of the mix up over the Delta flight, they thought that was the hijacked one heading west after 93 had done a 180. These searches were AFTER NORAD had been informed.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Yes, and transponders being turned off, particularly four of them, should have alerted the air traffic controllers immediately. No doubt procedures should then have been followed to alert the relevant bodies or agencies for action to be taken.

None was. No reason for confusion, just four potential hijacked planes.

You really haven't studied the day's events have you?

The air traffic controllers did notice immediately, what you may not realise is that NORAD does not have one person duplicating the work of each air traffic controller. Nor were they turned off simultaneously, nor were they all the responsability of the same people...