WouldBe said:Incoming means flying into the USA not originating from inside. Perhaps NORAD were worried about Utah launching an ICBM attack on New Hampshire.
Quite. On the basis of that NORAD are also responsible for a bird flu outbreak in the US ... if it arrives in a migrating goose coming into the airspace they monitor ...Bob_the_lost said:Pretty fucking meaningless. I asked for "any offical document that states NORAD's responsability for detecting a hijacking." Not a one liner that says nothing at all about civilian air trafic.
WouldBe said:Perhaps NORAD were worried about Utah launching an ICBM attack on New Hampshire.
It's amazing how much of the crap can be sourced to a small handful of people...MikeMcc said:Might be worth having a look to see how much circular sourcing goes on in the woo-woo sites too (site A says site C said that...., site B says site A said that...., site C says site B said that....,).
well I not bloody volunteering! Too much crap to wade through!beesonthewhatnow said:And thus a project was born
Bless.simplyoutkast said:911 was a bunch of bs.....have you seen loose change?
simplyoutkast said:911 was a bunch of bs.....have you seen loose change? Seriously, noone knows whats going on really.
MikeMcc said:Might be worth having a look to see how much circular sourcing goes on in the woo-woo sites too (site A says site C said that...., site B says site A said that...., site C says site B said that....,).
Hey! Just throw away all the thousands of pages of expert analysis, independent investigation and peer reviewed research because some unknown bloke who's never been interviewed since said something in the heat of the moment when he didn't know what was going on!Jazzz said:"That building is never coming down, that didn't get hit by a plane, why isn't somebody in there putting the fire out?"
- Comment by a firefighter, September 11, 2001.
Jazzz said:But why let ignorance get in the way?
You're right axon. The main focus of that was that when I said the core could be freestanding, TA and Crispy both jumped on it to say 'what a fool you are jazzz. The core wouldn't stand up on its own. What a ludicrous suggestion! This means, you are dumb, and it follows that everything else you say about the collapse is also dumb'. So, the question became a focal point as to which side was talking bollocks. And guess what - it wasn't me.axon said:Can we get back to the core of the WTC towers?
I still don't see the link between the core being able to be freestanding (if this is the case, I personally dunno) and why CD and not planes/fires accounts for the collapse.
But ... but ... but .... he's a firefghter ...editor said:... some unknown bloke ...
Jazzz said:You're right axon. The main focus of that was that when I said the core could be freestanding, TA and Crispy both jumped on it to say 'what a fool you are jazzz. The core wouldn't stand up on its own. What a ludicrous suggestion! This means, you are dumb, and it follows that everything else you say about the collapse is also dumb'. So, the question became a focal point as to which side was talking bollocks. And guess what - it wasn't me.
They have a working collapse hypothesis which I'd trust over anything dreamt up by fucking amateur idiots proposing invisible explosives installed by invisible people, missile-firing planes, children marked down for death, lying passengers, faked phone calls and the rest of the shot your spew out daily.Jazzz said:err... NIST haven't even come up with a finished theory as to why WTC7 came down,
Because that's where it was all planned from. How do we know this? Because it was blown up of course!Yossarian said:Why would anybody want to blow up WTC7, anyway?
Hi MikeMcc,MikeMcc said:Just had a peek back in my pet reference book (Engineer in Training:Reference Manual (8th Ed) by Michael R. Lindberg, a reference for US engineers seeking to pass their PE exams). In ductile materials (such as steel) the compressive yield point is the same as the tensile yield point. This will be the point at which the component fails.
But the point above - which everyone ignores, of course, is that - how did they know it was going to come down? It's by far the most surprising collapse of the three, and such a collapse - just by fire, wasn't even hit by a plane - had never happened before, ever. Yet it seemed word was out that it was about to come down, and sure enough it did. How on earth could anyone have known?MikeMcc said:Just to throw another twopenneth in, here's a link to a video from Steve Spak about the major fire and serious damage to WTC7
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHdt7wRQtaY