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brogdale said:
Then it makes sense to blank their intrusive questioning, then?
I can't stand how entitled some of the old fuckers stationed there are when they ask for your details; fuck 'em.
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Just ignore them. Walk straight past. They are not allowed to stop you, or to get in your way at all.

I have, in the past, had voters complain about the tellers and gone out and told them to move/behave.
 
Voting in rural Worcestershire is, apparently, brisk and above average turnout - I had to queue for a few minutes and there were probably 20 voters there over that period.

We had county council, PCC, and town council elections.
 
Waited 20 minutes in a freezy wind until I made it inside the building. Had to listen to a long-winded recitation of what to do including a tedious explanation of colour coding (why the 'salmon' coloured form is actually beige), how the preferential system works (similar to Australian system apparently). Almost went home but wanted my chance to write ACAB on the police commissioner ballot, query the pointless irrelevance of a corrupt and venal set-up, complain about a lack of a socialist opposition to the callous neo-liberal consensus and suggest the mayoral twattishness is basically an ego-puff with bling, bungs and general waste of effort.
I came out feeling much cheerier than I did when I went in.
 
Guineveretoo said:
Just ignore them. Walk straight past. They are not allowed to stop you, or to get in your way at all.

I have, in the past, had voters complain about the tellers and gone out and told them to move/behave.
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Yeah, as I said above, at times when I have voted I've always purposely blanked them.
FWIW, when I was last involved with a CLP I advocated that resources were not wasted doing telling, particularly as the poor data undermined any realistic GOTV operation, but was always over-ruled because...how would it look if we weren't there with the red rosettes?
 
brogdale said:
FWIW, when I was last involved with a CLP I advocated that resources were not wasted doing telling, particularly as the poor data undermined any realistic GOTV operation, but was always over-ruled because...how would it look if we weren't there with the red rosettes?
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I've been a Labour teller in the past but they (and the Tories) haven't used them in my constituency and probably in the rest of London for the last few years.
Now the majority of canvassing/voter ID is done by phone and on polling day the local election agent gets list of people who have voted every hour from polling stations.
Then people who have indicated they will vote for your candidate(s) and haven't yet are reminded to vote by phone or doorknocking.
 
tony.c said:
I've been a Labour teller in the past but they (and the Tories) haven't used them in my constituency and probably in the rest of London for the last few years.
Now the majority of canvassing/voter ID is done by phone and on polling day the local election agent gets list of people who have voted every hour from polling stations.
Then people who have indicated they will vote for your candidate(s) and haven't yet are reminded to vote by phone or doorknocking.
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How do the agents get such data without tellers?
 
brogdale said:
I know for fact, from local experience, that parties will sometimes inconvenience voters with this charade on exit from the polling station even when they've no meaningful ground-game; they do it for show...not to lose face/have a presence etc.
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these same fuckers in my town can be found outside the health Center wearing hi viz tabards during vaccination sessions doing absolutely fuck all apart from occasionally pointing old dears to the front entrance

also on every other page of the local rag opening shit, looking interested in shit, promoting pony schemes and complaining about the youth of the community

local council is the habitat of barely employable, mediocre, narcissistic hobbyists. I fucking loathe them
 
brogdale said:
Do they?
You sure?
From ERO staff?
I don't think that's right.
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That's what I was told when I was involved with campaigning, and why we didn't need to have tellers.
The election agent did have to go round each polling station and get the list from the reporting officer.
 
tony.c said:
That's what I was told when I was involved with campaigning, and why we didn't need to have tellers.
The election agent did have to go round each polling station and get the list from the reporting officer.
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Not something I've heard of; have to say.
 
AFAIK agents have always been able to go round the stations to get the number of voters who've cast their vote, but I've never heard of ERO staff giving over details of who has voted. That's why tellers are used.
 
tony.c said:
That's what I was told when I was involved with campaigning, and why we didn't need to have tellers.
The election agent did have to go round each polling station and get the list from the reporting officer.
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When was this? I also think this sounds very strange.
 
Guineveretoo said:
The activists only knock on the doors of the people who have indicated that they will vote for them.

They also use the numbers to give an indication of how well they are doing - they cross off the known Labour voters as they vote, and can get a good idea from that as to how well their candidate is doing compared to how many people have voted. They get that total from the polling station - it is issued hourly.

If you have not indicated that you will vote for their candidate, your number/name is not really much use to them at all.
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How can they possibly get a "good idea"??
Also we/I don't tell tellers the number of people who voted.

Honestly interested to know how standing outside one polling station for an hour or two gives a decent enough picture of how vote is going
 
Sue said:
When was this? I also think this sounds very strange.
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I think it was only in the last three years. I was quite heavily involved in the campaigh for Corbyn in 2017 and it was in place then, and subsequent Lonon Mayor, GLA, local council and 2019 GE.
 
ddraig said:
How can they possibly get a "good idea"??
Also we/I don't tell tellers the number of people who voted.

Honestly interested to know how standing outside one polling station for an hour or two gives a decent enough picture of how vote is going
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Well before election day, you go canvassing and note down the people who say they're going to vote for you. When you tell, you take down people's details and cross off the people who said they'd vote for you and have voted off your list. You then knock up those who said they'd vote for you but haven't yet.
 
Sue said:
Well before election day, you go canvassing and note down the people who say they're going to vote for you. When you tell, you take down people's details and cross off the people who said they'd vote for you and have voted off your list. You then knock up those who said they'd vote for you but haven't yet.
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Yes but any time I've had tellers they're really not there long at all
 
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