Elon Musk - news and discussion

[AnnO'Neemus]

Interesting they've 'obscured' it*.

While not saying it gives them a pass, I did wonder if some outlets edited it out of coverage for similar reasons, even if it was a misguided instinct to not broadcast offensive material, and/or a convenient excuse for them to sidestep the decision.




*for lack of a better word coming to mind that isn't 'censored'

I don't think it was censorship or a misguided instinct to not broadcast offensive material.

I vaguely recall that Germany has quite strict laws about not promoting Nazi imagery as well as laws against Holocaust denial.

So if a German media outlet believed/interpreted it to be a Nazi salute, it would probably be illegal for them to publish/broadcast the image of it.

And if you've got a bunch of German editors and journalists, publishers and their media lawyers saying 'We can't publish that, it's a Nazi salute' and/or 'We can't publish that, it really looks like a Nazi salute and so it's too close to call, especially because he's not denied it'... then who are we to argue that it's not?

You could argue that by censoring it, the journalists/publishers attributed the 'awkward salute' with that meaning, projected that meaning on to it, but... has Musk issued a denial/condemnation of Nazi salutes yet?

 

[JimW]

The headline reads " A Nazi salue is a Nazi salue is a Nazi salute" I think, so they're censoring it so as not to show one, not to sit on a fence.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Sorry, yes, I understood that the German paper wasn't publishing the image because of the law (and also what the headline said ).

The "similar reasons" was more in reference to why the law exists in the first place, and whether some US news outlets may be using similar reasoning to those in that law when deciding whether they should broadcast footage of it. Or, as I say, possibly as a convenient justification, whether that's to others or even to themselves, in that way we all do sometimes when given a convenient reason not to do something we're not keen on doing anyway. "Oh, well there's that law in Germany, so we probably shouldn't show it either".

No.

Or not

Probably crucial to this is I couldn't remember if they referred to it, at all, elsewhere in the broadcast, which is obviously germane to determining their motivations in this case.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Oh aye, I'm just curious if that was the justification for e.g US news outlets not showing it.

Nah those are cunts

 

[spitfire]

 

[brogdale]

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Top work!

 

[Hollis]

 

[editor]

This one amuwed me

 

[Ted Striker]

They seem more than happy to do so when it's football wankers doing it.

 

[tommers]

Elon Musk admits account-boosting on PoE2 and Diablo 4 but says deal with it: 'What would I be apologizing for?'

Used his IRL loot button.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[editor]

Doesn't look better from this angle

 

[Yossarian]

Musk's daughter knows what she saw

 

[two sheds]

I flicked through to further on during his speech I thought I heard the chant of Sieg Heil No idea what it actually was though.

Eta: and "Speedometer of the new Tesla"

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Ordinary people can be arrested, harrassed, smeared, fired from their jobs, their careers put on hold or ruined for having their human decency in showing solidarity with the Palestinian people twisted into charges of anti-Semitism by Zionists and their supporters echoed in the mainstream media. When the richest man in the world (it's just luck being born with enough family money to fail without consequence until you make the right connections with other even wealthier people, not because he's a 'genius') performs a salute at an inauguration ceremony for the new US president, there's calls for nuance, nothing to see here, it's a misunderstanding.

Absolutely, and the Anti-Defamation League are guilty of both of these things. They were raising concerns about Musk when he was allowing X to be flooded with Neo-Nazis, culminating in him agreeing with a post accusing Jews of a “dialectical hatred of white people”. Then, a day later, Musk started rallying behind Israel’s war on Gaza and the ADL praises him for his strong stance against antisemitism! Of course the ADL have said ‘don’t worry about the whole Nazi salute thing’.

 

[klang]

Doesn't look better from this angle

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And how excited those people are!

 

[Whagwan]

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Guess this one must have been an Arthur Matthews joke:

 

[teuchter]

By the same logic as is being applied to the Elon Musk gestures, Father Ted within the plot of that episode was, without any doubt, an actual Nazi sympathiser and was knowingly showing his allegiance at the window.

 

[two sheds]

me too when I was hailing that bus

 

[magneze]

By the same logic as is being applied to the Elon Musk gestures, Father Ted within the plot of that episode was, without any doubt, an actual Nazi sympathiser and was knowingly showing his allegiance at the window.

1/10

 

[Ax^]

By the same logic as is being applied to the Elon Musk gestures, Father Ted within the plot of that episode was, without any doubt, an actual Nazi sympathiser and was knowingly showing his allegiance at the window.

did father ted offer support of the AFD :hmm;

you are talking more bullocks than normal sir

 

[Whagwan]

Ah, Musk was waving at a Chinese family, that makes sense.