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To skip back to a conversation that was going on about 20 pages ago about how someone should make a sitcom set on the left, I discovered today that RTE Radio's Green Tea comedy show does regular sketches featuring Joe Higgins and Clare Daly of the Socialist Party and Richard Boyd Barrett of the SWP and People Before Profit.

Apparently Joe is portrayed as the long-suffering elder statesman who is always having to explain things to Richard, who is portrayed as an excitable child.
I heard one episode and they were referred to as "serial whingers", oooh edgy. And then there was the "Ireland...twinned with Nigeria" line over and over. :confused:

Does it get better?
 
I heard one episode and they were referred to as "serial whingers", oooh edgy. And then there was the "Ireland...twinned with Nigeria" line over and over. :confused:

Does it get better?


Was the bit in bold as dodgy as it sounds? RTE doesn't really do comedy.
 
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/trotsky-says-sorry-beyond-the-grave.292376/#post-11111184

It would appear our position on Kronstadt has been resolved with this - defintiely not fake - message from Trotsky. Obviously people will claim it's fake, but (assuming my memory/understanding is correct), as Posadis has taught us, the aliens will bring full communism, and this is a message from the aliens, blates. It woz lenin wot did it. I'm setting up an anti-leninist tendency. We reject the teachings & methodologies of Lenin, whilst still embracing the teachings & methodologies of trotsky - where these are the same we both reject and embrace them, in a dialectic fashion, seeing them as thesis and antithesis to the synthesis of Proletarian Democracy.
 
Was the bit in bold as dodgy as it sounds? RTE doesn't really do comedy.
It turned out they were trying to make a laboured point about Ireland's corruption, saying Nigeria is the most corrupt country in the world, which is wrong anyway, but there was a weird subtext especially considering how often all black people are assumed to be nigerian here.
 
NUS national conference in Sheff today, (bit of a coup for the struggling city) hardly any stalls there, though this was late afternoon..

SWP there, natch...
 
I heard one episode and they were referred to as "serial whingers", oooh edgy. And then there was the "Ireland...twinned with Nigeria" line over and over. :confused:

Does it get better?

they sound like cunts, i'd have heard that episode and wanted to throw my radio away.
 
NUS national conference in Sheff today, (bit of a coup for the struggling city) hardly any stalls there, though this was late afternoon..

SWP there, natch...

So were the SP, AWL and Workers' Power. Most of the work goes on inside though, I was there leafleting this morning. We'll be there every day until it ends (Thursday I believe) and I expect the rest will too.
 
Communiqué 3
65/08/70 (AM)

Bright Dawn salutes the Murdoch attack on Cameron's degenerate public school clique government. We raise our clenched fists in celebration of the bourgeois infighting. At this important time our enemy’s enemy is most decidedly our friend.

Yesterday James lit the fuse, today let Rupert set the prairie alight.

Victory to James Murdoch!
Victory to Rupert Murdoch!
Victory to Proletarian Democracy!

People’s Commission for the Bright Dawn of Proletarian Democracy (PCBDPD)
 
Communiqué 3
65/08/70 (AM)

Bright Dawn salutes the Murdoch attack on Cameron's degenerate public school clique government. We raise our clenched fists in celebration of the bourgeois infighting. At this important time our enemy’s enemy is most decidedly our friend.

Yesterday James lit the fuse, today let Rupert set the prairie alight.

Victory to James Murdoch!
Victory to Rupert Murdoch!
Victory to Proletarian Democracy!

People’s Commission for the Bright Dawn of Proletarian Democracy (PCBDPD)
awesome
 
Well, I don't see how you're going to be any use developing the Worker's Bomb. It's not fertiliser and bleach we're planning on using, is it?
 
<snip>I'm a massive Luddite </snip>
And here, comrades, the odious Spiney admits openly to his dangerous insurrectionist adventurism and and advocacy of the ill-disciplined workerist temperament of the machine-wreckers. What place for such naive ultra-leftism can there be in a project so solemn and serious as ours?
 
It is a part of local history near my home town. A fair few Luddites (some only youngsters) were held in the gaol at Lancaster castle. There they were publicly hanged as well.
 
It is a part of local history near my home town. A fair few Luddites, (some only youngsters) were held in the gaol at Lancaster castle. There they were publicly hanged as well.
When I moved down south I got a pamphlet done by a local historian about similar uprisings among the shearers in Gloucestershire. What he makes clear in that book is that they weren't "against progress", they were against being de-skilled and the loss of the relative freedom and lack of social stratification of the old master-apprentice way of doing the job.
ETA: Here's that pamphlet: http://www.diandsaulbooks.co.uk/the...historical-records-by-john-loosley-2535-p.asp Bit later than the Luddites but same grievances IIRC - I'd not hard of the southern version at all til I moved there.
 
200th anniversary of the Luddites. There's a few websites commemorating it all. I lived quite near to where a some major action happened apparently.
 
What he makes clear in that book is that they weren't "against progress", they were against being de-skilled and the loss of the relative freedom and lack of social stratification of the old master-apprentice way of doing the job.

Oh, of course. For the Luddites It was organisation in defence of livelihoods and working conditions. It wasn't just changes in industry but a time of war in Europe, blockade, and high food prices, that not only presented the threat of destitution but possible starvation for their families.
 
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