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Arsed
It is bizarre
Why the lib-dems are shit
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It is bizarre
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Somebody did a proper job on you. Was it the moonies?
dynamicbaddog
run for your life
certainly not better for the employees
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
still managed to defeat the Nazis and put the first man in space though eh? eh?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
probably caught something from all that rotting rubbish, or unburied bodies or scargill was in stalins pocket etc etc
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah but South Korea... errr...
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
It's a doubly weak argument because Southern Korea's privatised railway companies were nationalised by the US Military Government in 1946 - and run for good, or for ill -as a state-owned national industry - until the early 1990s. It was in this period that the ROK sustained growth, as privatisation was deepened the Asian crisis took over.
The ROK also massively protected its infant industries as the Soviet Union did... .
In fact I don't even know what I'm arguing against
It's as if random lists of three have been plucked out of Moon23's ears: Korea, Singapore, Taiwan STOP Telecommunications, utilities, travel STOP Strikes, blackouts, rotting rubbish STOP Nationalisation, State ownership, protectionism
Proper Tidy
Arsed
It's a doubly weak argument because Southern Korea's privatised railway companies were nationalised by the US Military Government in 1946 - and run for good, or for ill -as a state-owned national industry - until the early 1990s. It was in this period that the ROK sustained growth, as privatisation was deepened the Asian crisis took over.
The ROK also massively protected its infant industries as the Soviet Union did... .
In fact I don't even know what I'm arguing against
It's as if random lists of three have been plucked out of Moon23's ears: Korea, Singapore, Taiwan STOP Telecommunications, utilities, travel STOP Strikes, blackouts, rotting rubbish STOP Nationalisation, State ownership, protectionism
I didn't know that.
Tbh, I think Moon is getting fed this shit somewhere else and is just repeating it.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Privatisation of the buses has been fucking brilliant, of course. So much better since they closed down all the less profitable routes, and I love not being able to buy a single ticket for a multi-bus journey without paying double, and waiting three times as long for a bus because of all those wonderful companies running the same routes. It's just marvellous.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Privatisation of the buses has been fucking brilliant, of course. So much better since they closed down all the less profitable routes, and I love not being able to buy a single ticket for a multi-bus journey without paying double, and waiting three times as long for a bus because of all those wonderful companies running the same routes. It's just marvellous.
first or stagecoach. It's not even a competition- In my area it's an agreed fucking stitch up where there are barely even a handfull of routes run by both- just enough to satisfy the illusion that 'oh no guv, we haven't just divvied up the profitable routes between us'.
Oh, privitisation works- it works if the intent to make loads of cash is the aim, rather than providing a service and making modest but above inflationary growth. But the latter doesn't make anyone richer so fuck it, fuck us is the logic. How's jack doing.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
It is solely Arriva around here. Ah, choice...
Arriva are really crap
Arriva are really crap
So? You weren't born during the Spanish civil war but you know lots about it.
It's a doubly weak argument because Southern Korea's privatised railway companies were nationalised by the US Military Government in 1946 - and run for good, or for ill -as a state-owned national industry - until the early 1990s. It was in this period that the ROK sustained growth, as privatisation was deepened the Asian crisis took over.
The ROK also massively protected its infant industries as the Soviet Union did... .
In fact I don't even know what I'm arguing against
It's as if random lists of three have been plucked out of Moon23's ears: Korea, Singapore, Taiwan STOP Telecommunications, utilities, travel STOP Strikes, blackouts, rotting rubbish STOP Nationalisation, State ownership, protectionism
Yes it's all over the place as people keep asking my lot's of questions about different things! You try having a debate against about 10 people all asking you different threads at the same time
Yes at the cost of Million of lives, granted i'll give them the T-34
Yes. I have a bus stop right outside. For a job commuting to London, it's useless: I have to leave before the first bus and I get back after the last bus.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
millions of lives were lost by the western allies as well. The Industrial Revolution in britain took about a century to be stabilised and killed countless numbers- capitalism doesn't count its dead. It engineers circumstances where lives are lost and then says 'what? don't blame me. I only used cheap metal for the reactor core- the shareholders need dividends!'
The transition from agrarian to technological/industrial took 20 odd years in russia and that carried out against the backdrop of devastation of wars and revolution.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Yep. When I was in Brum I could take the bus in to work but there were no buses home. In Oxford, it takes an hour and a quarter to get 8 miles, by any one of three different methods (two of them involving a park & ride despite the availability of bus stops close by, and the other taking even longer if I don't fork out double for an all companies bus ticket). And that's starting from a major affordable housing suburb to a major employment suburb, and the destination is a big hospital on the same site as all the other big hospitals in town. It's fucking ridiculous.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Here we go - Royal Mail to be privatised. This one is Cable's baby. Weaselry won't save you on this one.
trabant
Well-Known Member
How are the primmies going to get their moon cups delivered?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
actually, the single bigest reason for the growth in 'new green technology' and the sunrise industry we have developing in that sector (especially renewables) has been the far-sighted support given to this sector by the recently-departed Labour govt. Support, moreover, the condems are cutting, thus potentially killing what looked like a very promising new industry
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
BT? Centrica? THe Rail Network? All these organisations notorious for shit customer service, being run by fatcats who rip us off, lousy labour relations and exploiting monopoly positions?
Jesus holy cow, PLEASE tell me you're not serious.
e2a; apols for arriving on thread late and not realising half of U75 had already had a seizure at such olympiad-standard imbecility and complete denial of reality.
The postal workers are fucked. Striking will cause more people to shift to means other than post; fax got its big break during one of the strikes in the 1980s, now there's email. And if the postmen don't strike, they'll get walked over.
So much official government business is conducted by post that retaining the Royal Mail in state ownership is absolutely necessary.
But really, if the main problem is the universal service, would it really cause hardship if post were only delivered twice a week - or even once a week? Despite the job losses and the loss of services involved, that would be a far better way of dealing with the issue than privatising the Royal Mail.
So much official government business is conducted by post that retaining the Royal Mail in state ownership is absolutely necessary.
But really, if the main problem is the universal service, would it really cause hardship if post were only delivered twice a week - or even once a week? Despite the job losses and the loss of services involved, that would be a far better way of dealing with the issue than privatising the Royal Mail.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Problem with faxes and emails is that it isn't much use for delivering goods, see.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Are the Utilitites some tribe in the bible which we exterminated? Maybe that's why Moron23 is so obsessed with conspiracies.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I agree, jesus they are shit
Very true. But for letters, the original purpose of the Royal Mail, it's a very different question. Who needs a written bill or statement when it can be emailed? And there's plenty of competition in the parcel delivery sector.
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