At our CLP post mortem meeting, i am going to ask, do people there know where the two main testing centres for DLA and PIP are in the city? That they are run as a profit making business, and if they have ever protested outside, ATOS, etc, it will be revealing who knows, etc.
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At our CLP post mortem meeting, i am going to ask, do people there know where the two main testing centres for DLA and PIP are in the city? That they are run as a profit making business, and if they have ever protested outside, ATOS, etc, it will be revealing who knows, etc.
Btw, at our CLP post mortem meeting, i am going to ask, do people there know where the two main testing centres for DLA and PIP are in the city? That they are run as a profit making business, and if they have ever protested outside, ATOS, etc, it will be revealing who knows, etc.
Oh, apparently, the branches have got hundreds of new members since the election, wonder where they stand politically
Oh, apparently, the branches have got hundreds of new members since the election, wonder where they stand politically
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
On my patch in South London leader, Jack Hopkins, in Lambeth has been putting out on his weekly emails to members which are grating.
The New Labour lot are the ones in touch with the local people ( forget unpopular libraries and estate "regeneration".) acording the Hopkins
Local community and grass roots members I know beg to differ.
From what Ive been sent the New Labour lot in London are trying to argue the Labour vote was due to them not the Corbyn supporters.
This is complete distortion of the political reality in inner London.
The New Labour lot are the ones in touch with the local people ( forget unpopular libraries and estate "regeneration".) acording the Hopkins
Local community and grass roots members I know beg to differ.
From what Ive been sent the New Labour lot in London are trying to argue the Labour vote was due to them not the Corbyn supporters.
This is complete distortion of the political reality in inner London.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Not possible under the EU however this is potentially a good starting point about opportunities post Brexit
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
by who, why, and given that Trump has managed to win an election, is that a problem?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Philips’ latest article blaming her shit performance on the hustings format 
what a chancer.
what a chancer.
ska invita
back on the other side
thats all there in the green new deal bit of the manifesto of the election just gone, including the bit about steel:
"We will establish a Foundation Industries Sector Council to provide a clean and long-term future for our existing heavy industries like steel and glass and fund R&D into newer technologies like hydrogen and carbon capture and storage.
A thriving steel industry will be vital to the Green Industrial Revolution. Labour will support our steel through public procurement, taking action on industrial energy prices, exempting new capital from business rates, investing in R&D, building three new steel recycling plants and upgrading existing production sites."
Shes not saying anything particularly new I dont think
Good leadership is the right deeds and the right words. Not just one or the other and certainly not just any old deeds so long as they are deeds.
How much experience of leadership do any of these people (here and in all other leadership campaigns) actually have prior to wanting to become the leader of the whole country, I wonder? Not that this is a prerequisite, or even necessarily a good thing. But many of them clearly have no idea what the various styles of leadership are, what the pitfalls are, how to cope with it, even. Let alone what the models of organisational structure can be, and the ways in which each of them can fail. You can’t be the kind of leader you want to be if you don’t understand how to make that happen, and trying to invent it yourself from scratch is unnecessary and foolish.
How much experience of leadership do any of these people (here and in all other leadership campaigns) actually have prior to wanting to become the leader of the whole country, I wonder? Not that this is a prerequisite, or even necessarily a good thing. But many of them clearly have no idea what the various styles of leadership are, what the pitfalls are, how to cope with it, even. Let alone what the models of organisational structure can be, and the ways in which each of them can fail. You can’t be the kind of leader you want to be if you don’t understand how to make that happen, and trying to invent it yourself from scratch is unnecessary and foolish.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Clearly the hatred of the Tories runs deeper in the bigger cities. Lots of reasons for that, a distrust of its overall values esp immigration policies.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
But she has thrust it into the forefront. It could only lurk before Brexit was settled for Labour.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
This article is ridiculous (Nandy has ‘lived’ because she went to University and said something about ‘fit men’ wtf):
www.theguardian.com
But it’s part of a noticeable developing narrative about Nandy - she’s professional, smart, resourceful and the candidate who know how Labour need to change to win/be competitive.
I’m happy to accept the first three descriptions but where is the evidence that she knows what Labour need to do? I’m talking here about specific ideas, proposals not just a critique of what went wrong. Once pinned down on specific policy matters, once we get past her vague decentralising agenda and once she’s asked what she’d do it all seems to become a bit shit?
Lisa Nandy is smart, clever and thoughtful. She’ll never be Labour leader | Suzanne Moore
The Wigan MP, who is standing for the leadership of her party, seems to have actually had a life – which sets her apart from the field, says Guardian columnist Suzanne Moore
I’m happy to accept the first three descriptions but where is the evidence that she knows what Labour need to do? I’m talking here about specific ideas, proposals not just a critique of what went wrong. Once pinned down on specific policy matters, once we get past her vague decentralising agenda and once she’s asked what she’d do it all seems to become a bit shit?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I was just about to post about that - the life , and it's strongly suggested that this makes her normal - actually is/was:
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Centre point, aren't they one of those 'charities' who tell people not to give money to homeless folk?
I assume they gave a research basis for this claim, but it’d be easy to believe that they just believe they want to take their cut.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Suzanne Moore innit? Enough said. Left Planet Earth about 25 years ago. Just note that what makes her ‘normal’ in Suzanne’s eyes is clanging generalisations about students.
Nandy isn’t normal, but that’s not really a problem in a Prime Minister. It’s the definition of not normal. If she was ‘normal’ she soon wouldn’t be. Empathy and honesty more important.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Good point, well made.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
'Multiple sources' have Jess Phillips dropping out later today.
This article is ridiculous (Nandy has ‘lived’ because she went to University and said something about ‘fit men’ wtf):
But it’s part of a noticeable developing narrative about Nandy - she’s professional, smart, resourceful and the candidate who know how Labour need to change to win/be competitive.Lisa Nandy is smart, clever and thoughtful. She’ll never be Labour leader | Suzanne Moore
The Wigan MP, who is standing for the leadership of her party, seems to have actually had a life – which sets her apart from the field, says Guardian columnist Suzanne Moore
I’m happy to accept the first three descriptions but where is the evidence that she knows what Labour need to do? I’m talking here about specific ideas, proposals not just a critique of what went wrong. Once pinned down on specific policy matters, once we get past her vague decentralising agenda and once she’s asked what she’d do it all seems to become a bit shit?
Er, she just spoke, in limited detail' admittedly, aboout developing an industrial strategy, etc.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
and she's gone
Labour leadership: Jess Phillips quits race to succeed Jeremy Corbyn
The Birmingham Yardley MP bows out of the contest as Lisa Nandy gets the backing of the GMB union.
www.bbc.co.uk
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