Positives about the next Labour government

[Silas Loom]

For Starmer, you mean?

For anyone who wants it and is old or ill enough to make a good case, I hope.

 

[Winot]

Are you sure he's not gone back on the fee-paying schools stuff already? He has on some of it.

They are no longer going to lose their charitable status, but they are going to have to put VAT on fees.

 

[two sheds]

until he decides they're not going to.

I trust that everyone criticizing Corbyn for being a weak leader because he was trying to gain consensus is in love with Starmer for being a strong leader because he doesn't give a shit what anyone else wants to see happen,

 

[Serge Forward]

For anyone who wants it and is old or ill enough to make a good case, I hope.

As far as Starmer goes, I can think of loads who want it and I'm sure they can make a good case.

 

[Whagwan]

Have we already listed assisted dying in here? Starmer has promised a free vote in the next parliament.

So overdue.

Whilst I fully support Right-To-Choose and assisted dying, I'm pretty sure Starmer is going for the Canadian model where disabled people choose to die rather than live in poverty than the more European model.

Are Canadians being driven to assisted suicide by poverty or healthcare crisis?

Critics argue laws are being misused to punish the poor but experts say cases represent country’s failure to care for its most vulnerable citizens

www.theguardian.com

 

[Silas Loom]

Whilst I fully support Right-To-Choose and assisted dying, I'm pretty sure Starmer is going for the Canadian model where disabled people choose to die rather than live in poverty than the more European model.

Are Canadians being driven to assisted suicide by poverty or healthcare crisis?

Critics argue laws are being misused to punish the poor but experts say cases represent country’s failure to care for its most vulnerable citizens

www.theguardian.com

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The Canada article is sensationalist bollocks, people with severe chronic illnesses deserve the right to die without excessive gatekeeping, and Kendall is in the unfortunate position of having to triangulate between nice and nasty voters, but quite clearly people who are unable to work will continue to live on benefits, and will do so somewhat more safely under Labour than the Tories.

I don’t see any connection at all, I’m afraid.

 

[Serge Forward]

The Canada article is sensationalist bollocks, people with severe chronic illnesses deserve the right to die without excessive gatekeeping, and Kendall is in the unfortunate position of having to triangulate between nice and nasty voters, but quite clearly people who are unable to work will continue to live on benefits, and will do so somewhat more safely under Labour than the Tories.

I don’t see any connection at all, I’m afraid.

Ever the optomist, eh.

 

[GroovySunday]

Surely it would only be fair to also have a Negatives About The Next Labour Government thread (though since when has fairness been in abundance in this particular online space, or indeed in life generally?).

Considering how much I am despised on here tho (not really anything to be ashamed of) I won't be the one to start it. Just something for the suggestion box I guess, for what it's worth.

 

[belboid]

Surely it would only be fair to also have a Negatives About The Next Labour Government thread

I think that can safely be assumed to be ‘everything else’

 

[Serge Forward]

After all there's never been anything even the slightest bit negative about the Labour Party on these here forums

 

[SpookyFrank]

Considering how much I am despised on here

Who are you again?

 

[moochedit]

We've had five Prime Ministers in the last eight years, and yet some still aren't satisfied.

Um...4...oh yeah her...

 

[Pickman's model]

We've had five Prime Ministers in the last eight years, and yet some still aren't satisfied.

I for one won't be satisfied until we've been 8 years without a prime minister

 

[A380]

Given the GB power network is going to be running short of dispatchable energy as the older plants in the CCGT power station fleets go out of service it’s useful that the massive amounts of ‘well, I don’t sell out’ smugness energy from some Urban Posters will be enough to power a town the size of Nuneaton…

 

[belboid]

I for one won't be satisfied until we've been 8 years without a prime minister

we gotta at least beat 652 days

 

[Whagwan]

Kendall is in the unfortunate position of having to triangulate between nice and nasty voters

Lol no, when someone tells you who they are believe them.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Kendall is in the unfortunate position of having to triangulate between nice and nasty voters

Kendall is a nasty piece of work, always has been.

 

[Serge Forward]

Kendall is a nasty piece of work, always has been.

Aye, she's fucking rank.

 

[_Russ_]

Whilst I fully support Right-To-Choose and assisted dying, I'm pretty sure Starmer is going for the Canadian model where disabled people choose to die rather than live in poverty than the more European model.

Are Canadians being driven to assisted suicide by poverty or healthcare crisis?

Critics argue laws are being misused to punish the poor but experts say cases represent country’s failure to care for its most vulnerable citizens

www.theguardian.com

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Farmers will be fucked then

 

[Elpenor]

Shares in private healthcare firms will rise if this statement is anything to go by

‘Middle-class lefties’ won’t stop Labour using private sector to cut NHS backlog, Streeting says

Shadow health secretary says quicker treatment to stop working class families being left behind is more important than ideology

www.theguardian.com

 

[Whagwan]

Ah that famous spare capacity in the Private system that isn't taken from NHS staff at all.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Shares in private healthcare firms will rise if this statement is anything to go by

‘Middle-class lefties’ won’t stop Labour using private sector to cut NHS backlog, Streeting says

Shadow health secretary says quicker treatment to stop working class families being left behind is more important than ideology

www.theguardian.com

Such a bizarre coincidence that Streeting takes fat bribes from private healthcare companies.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ah that famous spare capacity in the Private system that isn't taken from NHS staff at all.

With the staff who are often nhs staff at other times in the week

 

[Pickman's model]

Shares in private healthcare firms will rise if this statement is anything to go by

‘Middle-class lefties’ won’t stop Labour using private sector to cut NHS backlog, Streeting says

Shadow health secretary says quicker treatment to stop working class families being left behind is more important than ideology

www.theguardian.com

Should make the fat pig contribute to medical research by taking part in medical trials.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Should make the fat pig contribute to medical research by taking part in medical trials.

It would be interesting to find out how a man can survive for so long without a backbone.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Things will go from really shite to only just awful.

I think a Starmer government will actually do a lot of damage to the "perceived left" and just re-enforce the idea that (certainly in England) there aren't many realistic options for left/progressive voters, leading to more disengagement and voter apathy.

I agree: or it might get even worse. Suspect Starmer knows this hence accelerated purge against the Left

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Should make the fat pig contribute to medical research by taking part in medical trials.

Hopefully assisted dying?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

There was some stuff about getting rid of zero hour contracts, fire and rehire, some other employment stuff.

The "green new deal" lost it's £28 billion a year promise, but there is still some stuff in there maybe.

But.. you know. I have no faith they will do any of it.

They will do the cuts for sure

 

[belboid]

Under promise, over deliver.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Under promise, over deliver.

Under promise, deliver even less…