What is the first serious Labour scandal gonna be?
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scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I'm not going to watch it because presumably nobody's ever told him that it would be helpful to work outside politics for a few years before becoming an MP so that you have some sort of perspective in at least one sphere outside politics, or he's ignored them.
Because no matter any other arguments in favour of voting in 22-year-olds, that is an argument that he would probably consider valid if he weren't a 22-year-old who's only ever worked in politics.
ETA: I've watched the video now. If he accepted that there are valid arguments against people his age being involved in politics then he could address them. I personally do not think he should be allowed to be elected because of his lack of life experience, but in the current system he is allowed to be elected, and so are much older people who've also never worked outside politics, so at least he brings something else compared to them.
Representing the specific cohort who were affected by the pandemic is a good thing to focus on. Claiming he's "been renting in the insecure housing sector for quite a while now" is not persuasive for a 22-year-old from a nice home who went to private boarding school and then Cambridge, because that is clearly a lie and it will be picked up on. There has not been enough time for him to have "spent some time in the insecure housing sector" unless he means visiting friends rather than his own tenancy.
Focusing on the things he's done that are not typical for someone of his age is slightly naive when those things are... being an elected politician.
He does seem like a nice young man. That's another reason he should have been forced to wait before becoming an MP. Parliamentary politics is going to beat every little bit of niceness out of him before it's even had a chance to flower. But that's on the people who put him up for election rather than the many other candidates that would have won in that area.
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Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
What a horrible little nerk.
extra dry
Happy to be here
Using a loop hole to skip or avoid rather than avade tax or a extra marrital affair.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
I saw it coming. Probably lots of trans people did bh.
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Fuck sake. Are they getting sucked into this culture war bullshit? Why do they always let the far right determine the pitch on which they play? Have a fucking spine and a bit of basic human decency and rise above this divisive backwards nonsense and start setting the debate agenda on housing, work, cost of living, all the stuff that actually matters. Snowflakes that get upset about gender neutral toilets and pride flags can just piss off and scream at the sea because nobody should be listening to them, let alone giving them a platform or engaging with their insincere and calculated shit stirring.
What happened to his head? Mars Attacks!
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Can’t be unseen. He comes in peace.
Trevor Phillips and Laura K tried really hard to find a Labour scandal this morning on breakfast tv. It’s hard after a few days in government, but why would anyone think Labour would behave like the Tories? We got so used to the weekly garbage from the Tories, will we miss it?
I think the BBC guy pointing out the many things this young MP may not have experienced yet, could also be said of some MPs in their 70s. What this young MP has and will have for a few more years yet is youth and an understanding of young people which can be ignored too often.
Think that falls under the heading of "Wales? What's the prince done now?" As ukpol ignores the oldest colony again...
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
If you're talking about Oxford East:
You mean Brandon; WRP homeless guy?
I get the impression Jabu was neutral on LTN's which may have cost her a few votes.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
London Labour MP investigated over property income
Labour MP Tulip Siddiq is being investigated over a failure to declare rental income from a property.
www.bbc.co.uk
InArduisFouette
Well-Known Member
indeed
going to be interesting now that the BMA have called both Cass and the government out...
but it is , as many of us have been saying all along an issue which isa bridgehead in the attack on bodily autonomy which will impact everyone and as we saw with Christian Concern and COnranthe sniffing around 'Keira' Belll one which the US American Religious far right are interested in asan assault on reproductive rights
The balance of probabilities is surely expenses.
Because every MP claims expenses; two thirds of MPs are new and don't know their way around the system; and because the historical data overwhelmingly points that way.
By the way, who is Keith? Am I missing some in-joke here?
Because every MP claims expenses; two thirds of MPs are new and don't know their way around the system; and because the historical data overwhelmingly points that way.
By the way, who is Keith? Am I missing some in-joke here?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Yeah, that'll be why they fiddle their expenses... because they're new
Although it might explain why they get caught.
Yeah, that'll be why they fiddle their expenses... because they're new
Although it might explain why they get caught.
If you look closely at the 2009 expenses scandal, many inexperienced MPs were encouraged to submit dodgy claims by the more experienced MPs around them. They were sheltered for a long time in that behaviour by the more experienced MPs, up to and including the Speaker at that time.
If you don't already have it I recommend "No Expenses Spared" by Robert Winnett and Gordon Rayner.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I've no doubt they were encouraged by long-term corrupt cunts. It's easier to continue to get away with theft when the pesky kids who might otherwise prevent you from continuing to obtain your illicit spoils are party to said thievery. Similarly, I don't think all coppers start out as cunts, but when the whole system is corrupt, you either go with it or get out, and politics is no different.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'm shocked... It's almost as if they're all corrupt.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
They have nothing to learn from the tories
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Maybe how to get away with it better.
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