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Who will be the next Labour leader?

Who will replace Corbyn?

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Still dunno what to do. Either vote RLB and Rayner despite everything just to keep labour at least tied to challenging political consensus/neoliberalism/whatever or not bother at all. Either way in a few weeks I'm going to opt out of political fund, only thing I've made my mind up on.
 
Proper Tidy said:
Still dunno what to do. Either vote RLB and Rayner despite everything just to keep labour at least tied to challenging political consensus/neoliberalism/whatever or not bother at all. Either way in a few weeks I'm going to opt out of political fund, only thing I've made my mind up on.
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I'm going to vote RLB (purely as an anti-Starmer vote and with absolutely no expectation of her. She's useless).

I'm also voting Rayner purely because of her class background and the fact that it still informs her thinking to some extent.

I'm hoping that as the realisation dawns on people there can be a renewed focus on community work outside of labourism and a growing interest in politics beyond the psychodrama of the Labour Party.
 
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Apparently, all of the candidates were asked to sign pledge cards' demanding a number of actions they would take in relation to trans rights, waving aside the merits of such cards, I am not comfortable with them close down debate, , etc, How do these pressure groups get on the agenda, etc, I would like all candidates to agree they would support the manifesto commitment to an enquiry in the benefit deaths, but i wouldn't know how to begin that process, same as what got on the ballots for discussion and voting at conference, I suggest there is a real democratic deficit going on.
 
Keeley (who is excellent) has gone for Starmer (who er isn’t)

on the plus side this could mean that disability/mental health/social care is more likely to get a high profile under the (inevitable) starmer leadership
 
Some corkers out today...suppose it's cos the ballots drop from today?

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e2a : probs should put this in the Mason thread as well?
 
treelover said:
Apparently, all of the candidates were asked to sign pledge cards' demanding a number of actions they would take in relation to trans rights, waving aside the merits of such cards, I am not comfortable with them close down debate, , etc, How do these pressure groups get on the agenda, etc, I would like all candidates to agree they would support the manifesto commitment to an enquiry in the benefit deaths, but i wouldn't know how to begin that process, same as what got on the ballots for discussion and voting at conference, I suggest there is a real democratic deficit going on.
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A good way to start that process would be for you to join the Labour Party. There is afaics no other way for you to start that process. But you won't, will you, that would mean Doing Something
 
MadeInBedlam said:
Further humiliation for camp Corbo then
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Not really. She states his leadership was weak and that his global politics were often crass and binary.

Both statements are factually correct. Both were made as part of a much wider and deeper profile

I’d also add that a political analysis of someone based on their praise/legitimate criticism for Corbyn isn’t necessarily a sensible place to start.

If you actually watch the 42 minute piece you’ll see everything you need to know about Rayner.
 
I'm voting Burgon for deputy so a good socialist will be there nagging at who ever gets to leader.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Not really. She states his leadership was weak and that his global politics were often crass and binary.

Both statements are factually correct. Both were made as part of a much wider and deeper profile

I’d also add that a political analysis of someone based on their praise/legitimate criticism for Corbyn isn’t necessarily a sensible place to start.

If you actually watch the 42 minute piece you’ll see everything you need to know about Rayner.
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