Who will be the next Labour leader?

[killer b]

But it was what I understood, and I don't care enough to check whether I was mistaken. But tbh I'm not here to argue about all the dull shit that goes on on politics twitter and regret saying anything now.

 

[cantsin]

But it was what I understood, and I don't care enough to check whether I was mistaken. But tbh I'm not here to argue about all the dull shit that goes on on politics twitter and regret saying anything now.

it was twit/pol at it's v worse, but the fact this total hoax percolates outwards / IRL is genuinely concerning, and w/o doubt strengthens the actual cranks sense of righteous persecution etc, whilst probably shoring up the idea of racist Lab

 

[Proper Tidy]

Honestly I suspect no normal people will even hear about labour left types hating the chinese much less believe it

 

[killer b]

it was twit/pol at it's v worse, but the fact this total hoax percolates outwards / IRL is genuinely concerning, and w/o doubt strengthens the actual cranks sense of righteous persecution etc, whilst probably shoring up the idea of racist Lab

I don't know how much it has percolated outwards tbh - I maintain a twitter account for music stuff and there's a little crossover which is the only reason I knew anything about it.

 

[belboid]

Going back a few days....at the hustings RLB said Labour was “the party of the Lever brothers and Ralph Miliband”

Are there other Lever brothers to the two who set up the Lever, as in Unilever, soap factory? Cos the main guy there was a notorious Liberal, and the only connection with labour I can find regards there use of forced Labour in the Belgian Congo.

 

[butchersapron]

She said Leaver bros.

 

[butchersapron]

Leslie and Harold though.

Not a good call.

 

[butchersapron]

Miliband is also a really bad call, only joining at the end of his life in utter despair.

(edit: and after 40 years arguing labour is not and cannot ever be the party we need)

 

[butchersapron]

Oh god, she's 'doing jews' isn't she?

 

[kebabking]

Oh god, she's 'doing jews' isn't she?

She's got time now the campaign is over - she was too busy before...

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Oh god, she's 'doing jews' isn't she?

That does seem to be the idea here. One that no doubt, whoever dreamt it up, thought was a really smart way of putting clear water between her and corby on AS.

“Look at her heroes.... all Jews’....

No Chinese on the list though

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Honestly I suspect no normal people will even hear about labour left types hating the chinese much less believe it

It’s bizarre. If it’s a smear it’s a really piss poor one. I presume the nomination for Nandy by the Chinese for Labour Group has led twitter loons off down this path?

 

[Shechemite]

“Look at her heroes.... all Jews’....

Fanny Kaplan?

 

[belboid]

Leslie and Harold though.

Not a good call.

aah, ta. Leslie doesn't seem too awful. Tho being knighted by two popes may affect his jewish credentials a bit.

 

[redsquirrel]

"Everywoman: One Woman’s Truth about Speaking the Truth, which came out in 2017, is an everyday tale of one middle-class city-dweller’s struggle to reach Westminster from a professional public-sector background, having gone to a highly selective grammar school and two Russell Group universities."

That's great.

 

[brogdale]

That's great.

Not forgetting that Jessica also had a spell working for Mummy & Daddy's 'healthcare' events company as a project manager.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

That's great.

Isn’t it. Even more enjoyably it was written by someone who grew up on Chelmsley Wood, the biggest council estate in Birmingham, and from a genuine WC background

 

[treelover]

Going back a few days....at the hustings RLB said Labour was “the party of the Lever brothers and Ralph Miliband”

Are there other Lever brothers to the two who set up the Lever, as in Unilever, soap factory? Cos the main guy there was a notorious Liberal, and the only connection with labour I can find regards there use of forced Labour in the Belgian Congo.

they looked after their workers, obv in a paternalistic way, but living in Port Sunlight had many attractions.

 

[belboid]

they looked after their workers, obv in a paternalistic way, but living in Port Sunlight had many attractions.

Not the ones in the Congo they didn’t. But they aren’t really human, supposedly.

but that’s liberals for you.

 

[killer b]

Port sunlight is lush, plenty of attractions to living there now too.

 

[treelover]

low rent isn't one of them, my dad worked on the lines, could never afford to live there now,

 

[killer b]

I'm sure that's true, although it's also true of pretty much everywhere other than shithouse slums and the last remnants of social housing.

 

[andysays]

UNITE has announced it's backing RLB

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The EC has decided it’s recommending support for RLB and Richard Burgon for deputy.

Fortunately, the EC is irrelevant to the rank and file.

The decision to support Burgon is particularly incomprehensible. He seems like a decent fella but he’s FUCKING USELESS.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for RLB either as her running mate (and the candidate who the clueless pathetic pandering twats should have backed) is Angela Rayner.

 

[Proper Tidy]

What's the score with burgon/rayner, is rayner seen as a liability or not quite on message by left of labour? Bit out of the loop on all the labour stuff cos most of the time it's pretty boring

 

[Smokeandsteam]

What's the score with burgon/rayner, is rayner seen as a liability or not quite on message by left of labour? Bit out of the loop on all the labour stuff cos most of the time it's pretty boring

I think Rayner fails the ‘true believer’ test demanded by the tin gods of the union. Despite her loyalty to Corbyn.

In constant Burgon is the campaign group candidate and happy to defend any shit he’s told to.

Given her class background, her credibility as a union steward and the fact she gets it on Brexit you’d think we’d be doing everything to back her.

Anyway, she will walk the deputy leader election and Lenny will have backed the losing candidate. An abysmal decision from the EC and a GS who should have fucked off years ago

 

[Marty1]

Rather like anyone would beat Labour right now. They're just as wrapped up in their own views and completely out of touch as the Tories were until Cameron arrived. The last election showed this. Labour need to go through the same process as the Tories by accepting some hard truths, facing up to why they went wrong and their failures, and finding someone with the vision to make the party electable again. Or you can retreat to the comfort of a few hundred thousand members agreeing with you?

I agree and so does Lisa Nandy.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I agree and so does Lisa Nandy.

Agree with what? Specifically.

Corbyn is gone. The disastrous Brexit policy similarly.

So, what else should they ditch. What is the vision you think will connect with voters. Instead of posting videos that don’t say what you say they do let’s have some specific ideas

 

[Marty1]

Agree with what? Specifically.

Corbyn is gone. The disastrous Brexit policy similarly.

So, what else should they ditch. What is the vision you think will connect with voters. Instead of posting videos that don’t say what you say they do let’s have some specific ideas

Agree that Labour need to understand what went wrong and learn from their mistakes which doesn’t appear to be happening considering the front runner to replace Corbyn gave him a 10/10 rating as leader.

 

[Mr Moose]

Agree with what? Specifically.

Corbyn is gone. The disastrous Brexit policy similarly.

So, what else should they ditch. What is the vision you think will connect with voters. Instead of posting videos that don’t say what you say they do let’s have some specific ideas

Taylor Swift? Brittany Spears? Christ on a bike, the woman is 40 years old and wants to be Prime Minister. Sorry, tittle tattle. I’ll watch the rest of it.

I’m non factional and from the left, says Owen Smith supporter.