Who will be the next Labour leader?

[cantsin]

Bit of an own goal that was and not a way to win over the Scottish voters who Labour desperately need to get back into government.

Labour doesnt need to worry about winning back Scot voters, that's over, pact with SNP and support for IndyRef #2 is only way fwd now - f*ck Lab unionism

 

[butchersapron]

Well yeah with the Winter of Discontent in 1978-79, strikes galore and blackouts.
And my point is that the hard left type seem totally unaccepting of other view points. They don't seem to acknowledge that Labour is supposed to be a broad church and the main opposition party with a goal of trying to get into government, not some protest movement. I'm centre left and want to see a Labour party that can make a difference get back in government, hence why I call myself Lefty.

Hmmm

 

[Pickman's model]

Labour is supposed to be a broad church and the main opposition party with a goal of trying to get into government, not some protest movement.

do you mean as opposed to the tories being the natural party of government the labour party is the natural party of opposition?

 

[killer b]

Labour doesnt need to worry about winning back Scot voters, that's over, pact with SNP and support for IndyRef #2 is only way fwd now - f*ck Lab unionism

labour's only route to power is through a pact which offers a referendum which will immediately see them out of power?

 

[Part-timah]

Have we had this yet? If not...

 

[andysays]

do you mean as opposed to the tories being the natural party of government the labour party is the natural party of opposition?

You could certainly be forgiven for thinking that...

 

[Idris2002]

Has anyone else seen that stuff alleging that RLB hates the Chinese? Doesn't look it will stick as a smear, but does it suggest that she's rattled the right people.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Has anyone else seen that stuff alleging that RLB hates the Chinese? Doesn't look it will stick as a smear, but does it suggest that she's rattled the right people.

what??

 

[Idris2002]

what??

hey ho

 

[andysays]

1. I think I read some reference to her having a relaxing evening with a Chinese takeaway the other day, maybe some wires got crossed somewhere

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Smokeandsteam]

hey ho

Hmmm. So has RLB said anything about Chinese for Labour and it’s position on the Chinese state?

 

[Arbeter Fraynd]

There werent any blackouts in 1978/9 son. Blackouts were imposed by the Tories during the miners industrial action in 1974 . The Tories called an election camapigning on the slogan 'Who Governs Britain' and Labour won the election and settled the dispute giving the miners a 35% pay rise., a year later the NUM won a further rise.

Can anyone reccomend a good history / analysis of that period? I'm older than Lefty92, but not by enough to remember the 70s...

 

[Idris2002]

Hmmm. So has RLB said anything about Chinese for Labour and it’s position on the Chinese state?

Not as far as I can see. I've not even been able to tell what C for L's posn. on the PRC state might be. . .

 

[killer b]

The chinese labour affiliated group has endorsed Nandy, and I understand some of the crank accounts may have been saying bad things about the chinese in response (I've not seen any of these bad things so I've no idea what), and some pearl clutching centrists have been going 'see! what starts with the jews never stops with the jews!' on twitter as a result.

I've not been moved to look into it beyond thinking 'this is why I deleted my politics twitter account'

 

[Idris2002]

Aye, but from what I can tell it's not even crank accounts. I mean anti-semitism was/is a real problem, but this on the other hand seems to have been created entirely ex nihilo.

 

[treelover]

Revealing how quickly some of the journo's jump on it, power without responsibility.

 

[killer b]

Delete politics twitter guys, it's worthless. Really.

 

[Proper Tidy]

From maoist cycles to sinophobia: twitter and the labour party 2015 - 2020

 

[sleaterkinney]

It is an irrelevant and obsolete myth that Labour can only win elections as a liberal centrist party. It's at least 7 years past its sell-by date, i.e. when the electorate started emphatically rejecting everything centrist

When have they gone for the far left?

 

[Idris2002]

From maoist cycles to sinophobia: twitter and the labour party 2015 - 2020

A revolution is not a tea party.

 

[Proper Tidy]

When have they gone for the far left?

Don't you get bored mate

 

[sleaterkinney]

Don't you get bored mate

Back at ya.

 

[butchersapron]

Back at ya.

He doesn't say one paranoid raddled thing over and over.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Not yet anyway

 

[killer b]

Wouldn't it have been great if Corbyn had been pushing far left politics though huh?

 

[butchersapron]

Not yet anyway

Can always go back to the SP when the urge comes upon ye.

 

[cantsin]

labour's only route to power is through a pact which offers a referendum which will immediately see them out of power?

who said that ?

 

[killer b]

Isn't that the logical conclusion to this? If Labour's only route to a majority is through a pact with a party who's MPs would no longer form part of that majority after a (successful) second indie ref, then it's not really much of a way forward is it?

pact with SNP and support for IndyRef #2 is only way fwd now

 

[cantsin]

The chinese labour affiliated group has endorsed Nandy, and I understand some of the crank accounts may have been saying bad things about the chinese in response (I've not seen any of these bad things so I've no idea what), and some pearl clutching centrists have been going 'see! what starts with the jews never stops with the jews!' on twitter as a result.

I've not been moved to look into it beyond thinking 'this is why I deleted my politics twitter account'

this was a total hoax, and the only people claiming 'cranks ' were at it were the usual cynical centrist rabble .... well done on quitting twitter , but to then come on here and say you ' understand ' this happened on twitter is daft as buggery - edit : have just seen the ' may have', but still.... honest, there wasn't a single supporting available screen grab etc