Who will be the next Labour leader?

[fakeplasticgirl]

A semi-state school that just happened to become a private school. A private school in all but name, like many. And he was there when it became a private school - unless he left at age 13. So it was semi-state when he first went and fully private well before he left for oxbridge.

Just googled it. It was a grammar school when he started and turned private when he was 14. Whether at that stage he’d have had to pay for it I have no idea given he was already here - but anyway who cares? Your hero corbyn went to private school!

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

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[sleaterkinney]

Who will be the next leader, I don’t know, presumably Corbyn has been told to stay in until McCluskey and Landsman figure out a puppet, I’m not sure they’ll give up on power that easy.

 

[butchersapron]

Just googled it. It was a grammar school when he started and turned private when he was 14. Whether at that stage he’d have had to pay for it I have no idea given he was already here - but anyway who cares? Your hero corbyn went to private school!

My hero Corbyn? Not been reading that closely have you?

So, when i said he was private school and oxbridge i was right - yes?

 

[butchersapron]

Who will be the next leader, I don’t know, presumably Corbyn has been told to stay in until McCluskey and Landsman figure out a puppet, I’m not sure they’ll give up on power that easy.

Into proper conspiracy theory territory now aren't you. Tragic. Actually no it's not, this was always you, there's been no decline.

 

[butchersapron]

Who will be the next leader, I don’t know, presumably Corbyn has been told to stay in until McCluskey and Landsman figure out a puppet, I’m not sure they’ll give up on power that easy.

By who - his anti-jew master string pullers?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

My hero Corbyn? Not been reading that closely have you?

So, when i said he was private school and oxbridge i was right - yes?

Nah tbf I haven’t. Just swooped in to defend my beloved Starmer.
I didn’t deny Oxbridge it was the private school I was confused by. And he did go to grammar school.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

He was so good in the mclibel documentary!

And he’s no blairite either:
Keir Starmer: Sorry, Mr Blair, but 1441 does not authorise force

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Time to build the STARMENTUM!!!

 

[Spandex]

Yvette Cooper

Making a relic of the Blair era leader won't bring back Labour's success from the Blair era. You might as well make Clem Atlee's hat leader and hope for the best. Or do you like her sensible centrist politics - capitalism with a smiley face - the sort of politics that did worse than Labour on Thursday?

Jess Philips

I don't know a huge amount about Phillips. She certainly has the gift of the gab, but I can't help suspecting her main political interest is Jess Phillips.

Hopefully Starmer

Starmer looks like the poster boy for a 1950s dystopia. Every time he's on the telly I expect Dan Dare to leap on screen and save us from his droning on.

 

[Southlondon]

Can now nominate through trade unions and affiliated societies and not need any MPs signatures at all. Apparently any two trade unions would beat the 5% needed to achieve this.

You’re right I was forgetting about the rule changes.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Into proper conspiracy theory territory now aren't you. Tragic. Actually no it's not, this was always you, there's been no decline.

You're the tragedy.

 

[sleaterkinney]

By who - his anti-jew master string pullers?

You think it was his idea to stay on?.

 

[butchersapron]

Who are the mind-benders, the hidden hand, the string-pullers sleater?

 

[belboid]

You think it was his idea to stay on?.

Of course it is. Planning for the succession has always been part of the plan. Why do you think the right are so keen for him to go immediately?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Of course it is. Planning for the succession has always been part of the plan. Why do you think the right are so keen for him to go immediately?

Exactly. The succession.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe it says something about sleater's experience of and expectations of collective endeavors - in it for themselves, despite Corbyn quite clearly showing a long term commitment to a set of principles that mean leaving people in the lurch isn't an option but that planning is. Or he might just be a self-centred tit driven conspiracy mad.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Maybe it says something about sleater's experience of and expectations of collective endeavors - in it for themselves, despite Corbyn quite clearly showing a long term commitment to a set of principles that mean leaving people in the lurch isn't an option but that planning is. Or he might just be a self-centred tit driven conspiracy mad.

Now this is the conspiraloon stuff.

Nevermind losing elections, lets not leave people in the lurch.

McDonnell has had the decency to step aside.

 

[belboid]

Exactly. The succession.

there's always a bloody succession, don't be daft.

 

[butchersapron]

He was so good in the mclibel documentary!

And he’s no blairite either:
Keir Starmer: Sorry, Mr Blair, but 1441 does not authorise force

 

[butchersapron]

there's always a bloody succession, don't be daft.

The Succession - sounds like an Illuminati conspiracy.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

So obvious and yet you’ve been completely unable to provide any coherent evidence for it across multiple threads of being asked for this.

Here’s something obvious: Labour were unpopular under Brown, unpopular under Miliband and actually saw their vote rise in 2017 under Corbyn, who presented some policies that were — gasp — popular. Here’s something else obvious: Labour’s biggest problem right now is trying to hold together the Brexit-voting base in the north of the country with their remain-voting support in the south, which is an issue not remotely of Corbyn’s making. You’ve swallowed a narrative of it being all about leaders in the face of all historical evidence. And in repeatedly insisting on it, you’re making an absolute tit of yourself.

 

[belboid]

The Succession - sounds like an Illuminati conspiracy.

great book

 

[DotCommunist]

Sebastian Payne of the Financial Times

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

This is interesting from Lewis Goodall
General election: Corbyn's greatest failure is not providing a left-wing alternative to Brexit

 

[butchersapron]

This is interesting from Lewis Goodall
General election: Corbyn's greatest failure is not providing a left-wing alternative to Brexit

What that says to me is that Corbyn became a liability only when labour adopted an effectively pro-remain position - he became the lightning rod for that stupidity. That article is an illustrated account basically of what changed between 17 and 19.

Labour has become associated with attempts to block or reverse our leaving the EU.

 

[philosophical]

There is no chance of the labour party influencing anything with the majority the Evil Empire holds.
The best next Labour leader is the one who can attack, wrong foot and ridicule Boris Johnson and the others at every opportunity, which means PMQ's mainly.
For that you need to be articulate and quick witted and disarming and come up with memorable lines.
None of the list above would fit that bill. Maybe Yvette Cooper might but she won't get it.
I keep thinking about how the Liberals went from Fallon to Swinson, bad to worse in the eyes of voters, and it looks as if Labour might end up doing the same.

 

[butchersapron]

There is no chance of the labour party influencing anything with the majority the Evil Empire holds.
The best next Labour leader is the one who can attack, wrong foot and ridicule Boris Johnson and the others at every opportunity, which means PMQ's mainly.
For that you need to be articulate and quick witted and disarming and come up with memorable lines.
None of the list above would fit that bill. Maybe Yvette Cooper might but she won't get it.
I keep thinking about how the Liberals went from Fallon to Swinson, bad to worse in the eyes of voters, and it looks as if Labour might end up doing the same.

Watford should quickly score 4 now and win the game!

 

[chilango]

Ok, and we probably need another thread for this in due course, but an urgent priory is the articulation of an alternative post-Brexit vision for seizing on whatever opportunity leaving the EU provides.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Pmqs, the battleground on which elections are won