Who will be the next Labour leader?

[Zapp Brannigan]

Pickman's model I don't think Johnson will sweep to a 100+ majority. I don't think the op is valid.

I think the OP would rather have the Johnson majority just so they can say "I was right". The fucking nutter.

 

[SpackleFrog]

If Johnson gets returned with 100+ majority I suspect Labour is done for a generation, which may well mean forever.

Pickman's model I don't think Johnson will sweep to a 100+ majority. I don't think the op is valid.

Fair but I think if Johnson were to get a massive majority (and I think it's a possibility he can get a majority but not a large one) the reality of his Brexit deal will cause the Tories a lot of problems for a very long time. You can imagine what the reaction will be the first time the ECJ tells a govt they can't do something because they have agreed to ECJ oversight of economic policy. That "traitors" narrative is likely to bite back.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I think the OP would rather have the Johnson majority just so they can say "I was right". The fucking nutter.

Yeah but then they'd be disappointed that Brexit wasn't as apocalyptic as they thought.

 

[pesh]

Corbyn is far from popular says Urban's least self aware poster

 

[Proper Tidy]

Probably one for the feedback forum this but surely we can ban posters for being tedious as fuck. Like that wank radio 4 thing, get them on repitition. We all know he's a tit, get rid.

 

[Pickman's model]

Probably one for the feedback forum this but surely we can ban posters for being tedious as fuck. Like that wank radio 4 thing, get them on repitition. We all know he's a tit, get rid.

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[SpineyNorman]

As for secrets, yes.
The arguing has to be done behind closed doors so the shite daily mail and their like have nothing to say.
Once that's sorted, on with the public part of the process.

Would labour members be in on the secret or can't they be trusted to watch the debates either?

Ive got a suspicion you might not have really thought this through, call it a hunch.

 

[ska invita]

Whoever it is has to jettison second referendum imo. Hopefully by the time there's another election brexit will have happened already anyhow

 

[Maidmarian]

Me - obs x

 

[Marty1]

Piers Corbyn.

 

[Ted Striker]

Ignore...

 

[ska invita]

Pidcock gone....

 

[Calamity1971]

Pidcock gone....

My ex MP.

 

[ska invita]

My ex MP.

is really a sad loss, shes jsut the kind of person you want as a local mp.

heard paul mason just now saying whoever takes over needs to be 'someone of stature' to be able to hold everything together...probably will be the case...
its going to be keir starmer isnt it


what i saw of angela rayner this last month (not much but a bit) i liked.

 

[Calamity1971]

is really a sad loss, shes jsut the kind of person you want as a local mp.

heard paul mason just now saying whoever takes over needs to be 'someone of stature' to be able to hold everything together...probably will be the case...
its going to be keir starmer isnt it


what i saw of angela rayner this last month (not much but a bit) i liked.

She did actually care. Not very often you trust an MP. But there you go. .

 

[ska invita]

She did actually care. Not very often you trust an MP. But there you go. .

I expect she'll be back... Somewhere. I know she had a really good local and commited team around her too. Gutting.

Have heard mention of Gardiner stepping in, as interim at least. Anyone but Thornbrrry tbh, that would make this all even bleacker.

 

[NoXion]

It'll be some Blairite non-entity, and they'll spend the next 5years scratching their heads wondering why they're doing even worse in the polls.

 

[Lorca]

membership is still dominated by momentum/corbynites though innit?

 

[redsquirrel]

Yeah I don't think it will be a Blarite - (1) they don't have enough support in the party, (2) they are split themselves between arch remainers (Adonis, Mandelson) and those that wanted to keep leave voters onside (Flint, Kinnock).

More likely someone in the mould of Miliband.

 

[moochedit]

So how many of the people in the op's poll are still mp's?

 

[eoin_k]

I like Kier, much of his appeal being his pro-EU stance (and voting record), positive opinions on gay rights and same sex marriage, and his general attitude to things. [...]

His record at the CPS ensuring the avoidance of police prosecutions for the killing of Ian Tomlinson demonstrated the sort of qualities I'd expect you to admire in a politician.

 

[Lorca]

Is it possible that Corbyn will actually stay on for a good while yet though? There will be intense pressure to go, but there is always.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Starmer (who I'm sure Mason was angling for) would be a disaster. He has been one of the chief architects of Labour's failure in this election.

 

[YouSir]

Is it possible that Corbyn will actually stay on for a good while yet though? There will be intense pressure to go, but there is always.

Better to go quickly imo, the Left needs it's bitterness and rage to back it's own candidate. Longer we wait, the more the edge is taken off.

 

[treelover]

I probabably would go for Lisa Nandy.

 

[belboid]

So how many of the people in the op's poll are still mp's?

only Watson's gone. Tho I think we can safely rule Ashworth out too now

 

[Plumdaff]

Angela Raynor. I may trust her too much as she's the spitting image of a mate (although not Scottish) but she seems pretty good. It has to be someone Leave friendly in a northern English seat.

 

[Southlondon]

It’s a case of whether or not there are enough left wing MPs to get a lefty into the leadership ballot

 

[butchersapron]

It’s a case of whether or not there are enough left wing MPs to get a lefty into the leadership ballot

21? I think that's doable.

 

[maomao]

21? I think that's doable.

Can now nominate through trade unions and affiliated societies and not need any MPs signatures at all. Apparently any two trade unions would beat the 5% needed to achieve this.