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Who will be the next Labour leader?

Who will replace Corbyn?

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butchersapron said:
Don't you believe in social mobility? It's private school, oxbridge, mp, Director of Public Prosecutions , Head of the Crown Prosecution Service, Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath and Privy Councillor what makes him posh.
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So he passed his 11+ & went to what was then a grammar school, then went to Leeds university before doing a post grad at Oxford. Then he had a very successful legal career. Yes being DPP & a KBE does add a bit on the poshness scale but his was not born into poshness.
 
butchersapron said:
Seriously, if that's not modern day posh then nothing is.
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And given we were taking about how a new leader would be perceived by disillusioned former labour voters - posh school, posh uni, posh jobs, posh politics, posh constituency, some sort of fucking knight, of course they're gonna think he's posh, he is posh
 
MrSki said:
So he passed his 11+ & went to what was then a grammar school, then went to Leeds university before doing a post grad at Oxford. Then he had a very successful legal career. Yes being DPP & a KBE does add a bit on the poshness scale but his was not born into poshness.
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But now he is yeah?
 
What’s all the hate for jess Phillips? She’s be my second choice. I keep readig that she’s a blairite but her voting record does not suggest that. Is it just because she didn’t support corbyn? I note that despite Birmingham yardley being a strong leave area, and her pushing the idea of a second ref, her share of the vote barely went down. She could unite the party!
 
fakeplasticgirl said:
What’s all the hate for jess Phillips? She’s be my second choice. I keep readig that she’s a blairite but her voting record does not suggest that. Is it just because she didn’t support corbyn? I note that despite Birmingham yardley being a strong leave area, and her pushing the idea of a second ref, her share of the vote barely went down. She could unite the party!
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She's a divisive loudmouth.
 
Proper Tidy said:
That and becoming a knight
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Fair enough. I am no fan of the honours system & I suppose he could/should have refused it.

While he was awarded a knighthood in 2014 for "services to law and criminal justice" and is therefore entitled to be known as "Sir Keir Starmer", he does not use the title.
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havent seen whole of thread, but is anyone making a serious case for MALE , middle class, southern, big time Remainer being next Labour Leader ? After what's just happened ??
 
Given the circumstances of the election & with Johnson as PM I think a woman would be better placed as the next leader. I would have liked Laura Pidcock but that isn't going to happen now.
 
MrSki said:
Given the circumstances of the election & with Johnson as PM I think a woman would be better placed as the next leader. I would have liked Laura Pidcock but that isn't going to happen now.
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almost has to be a woman anyway, but bearing in mind John McDonnell isn't even in shad cabinet going fwd ( not well apparently - v much hope that's not true tho ) , and Richard Burgon isnt right for it, we have to make a virtue of this, and think female only.

ie : it's RLB vs Rayner ( I wish I had more confidence in Dianne Abbot, I like and respect her loads, despite the private school sh*tshow .... but it's not her thing, surely, just as it wouldn't be 99% of ours ' thing' ? ).

Jess Phillips leadership could see a mass exodus / possibly a new Party if they ( New Lab mk#2 ) pushed for PR (imo) .
 
MrSki said:
Given the circumstances of the election & with Johnson as PM I think a woman would be better placed as the next leader. I would have liked Laura Pidcock but that isn't going to happen now.
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There's no mad rush to elect the new one immediately and I'm sure they could sneak her in at a bi election.
 
maomao said:
There's no mad rush to elect the new one immediately and I'm sure they could sneak her in at a bi election.
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Corbo gone straight away in the NY - there's many a Lab MP I'd be happy to see open up a bye - election opportunity before then, but it's a long shot.

+ , its way too early for Laura P - she'll be the first back via a bye election, and then hopefully have 4 yrs + on shadow benches before getting leadership 2024 ( same year as AoC ? - sounding like some kind of misty eyed,pan atlantic reformist polito fantasy now )

( I'll have deets of timeline tmmrw night / maybe we all will )
 
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If I had ambitions to be PM, then being elected replacement leader in the immediate aftermath of defeat and presiding over the in-fighting is a bit of a poisoned chalice (William Hague, IDS). Get a fall guy in, then see which way the wind blows before throwing your hat into the ring.
 
butchersapron said:
You saying you think he'll stand down as an MP? I can't see that. His life would be over. Dead in the allotment shed ODed on elderberry wine within 6 months.
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lol, no chance, he's going to be a ledge on the back benches, and whatever you think of him, you know he ain't going anywhere near that shithouse Lords - but read / heard ( can't remember ) it's out asap in NY ( has to be anyway, otherwise it's just ammo )
 
seeformiles said:
If I had ambitions to be PM, then being elected replacement leader in the immediate aftermath of defeat and presiding over the in-fighting is a bit of a poisoned chalice (William Hague, IDS). Get a fall guy in, then see which way the wind blows before throwing your hat into the ring.
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I think / thought it's John McD as interim
 
Why do they have to be a WOMAN?

Why not a BAME or working class person?

It's much more important to get the leader right than impose an (informal) gender requirement.

FWIW I do see the a lot of leaders in this race as being women (Long Bailey and Rayner mainly) so this may be a redundant argument.
 
fakeplasticgirl said:
What’s all the hate for jess Phillips? She’s be my second choice. I keep readig that she’s a blairite but her voting record does not suggest that. Is it just because she didn’t support corbyn? I note that despite Birmingham yardley being a strong leave area, and her pushing the idea of a second ref, her share of the vote barely went down. She could unite the party!
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She doesn't really have any politics. She's about Jess Phillips. A feminist who took part in horrid online bullying of Diane Abbott. She would stab her grandmother (in the front) if it would get her the cover on the Observer Magazine. Has said much more nice stuff about Rees fucking Mogg than most of the Shadow Cabinet. I had to read her biography in my book group and she revealed some attitudes I think should disqualify you from being a Labour MP, my favourite example is she slagged off a Tory MP for 'only' having worked in a supermarket before he got elected while she was clever and had been a charity manager. Yuck.
 
cantsin said:
Jess Phillips leadership could see a mass exodus / possibly a new Party if they ( New Lab mk#2 ) pushed for PR (imo) .
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Still don’t get the Phillips hate. Can somebody show me a concrete example of what she’s done wrong? (Apart from not back corbyn).

Edit - I see someone has above...
 
Plumdaff said:
She doesn't really have any politics. She's about Jess Phillips. A feminist who took part in horrid online bullying of Diane Abbott. She would stab her grandmother (in the front) if it would get her the cover on the Observer Magazine. Has said much more nice stuff about Rees fucking Mogg than most of the Shadow Cabinet. I had to read her biography in my book group and she revealed some attitudes I think should disqualify you from being a Labour MP, my favourite example is she slagged off a Tory MP for 'only' having worked in a supermarket before he got elected while she was clever and had been a charity manager. Yuck.
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^ all of this, well said Plumdaff
 
Who would be the interim leader if Corbyn was to stand down immediately? (I actually thought it would be Watson 'cos I'd forgotten he'd stood down as deputy leader.)
 
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