Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

[teqniq]

Speaking of the Graun, they have this too.

Video reveals Steve Bannon links to Boris Johnson

 

[Nine Bob Note]

He's gonna give Europe what phoooaaawwwaaahhh!!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

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See though this is the sort of shit that would piss a lot of voters off, it’s sort of an extension of the politics of calling all the voters thick as well, if you speak to Trump voters (I’ve only done it online mind) it’s obvious all that shite - prove he is so so stupid- just played right into Trumps hands and reaffirms him as the peoples choice. Thing voters know from bitter experience that the more charming, articulate politicians aren’t any better, so at this point they just find the honesty refreshing, cause without that there’s fuck all distinguishing Boris from the professionals. Boris/Trump = those cunts after a few lines of speed.


Maybe, or maybe I need to go to bed.


ETA: I know the public aren’t voting for him, I was thinking further down the line cause who knows what could go tits up next.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I think one thing johnsons as PM will do is galvanise the tactical voting in a General Election way beyond what Hunt could achieve - whilst being a hit with the gammons, he is absolutely loathed by everyone else.

 

[Ming]

Speaking of the Graun, they have this too.

Video reveals Steve Bannon links to Boris Johnson

And if it's Bannon you can be pretty sure this guy's lurking in the shadows near by.
Robert Mercer - Wikipedia

 

[cupid_stunt]

As you will know if you saw the news, during the hustings today Johnson was asked repeatedly about the police incident and "personal lives", questions he chose to avoid answering.

Not surprised really, it does seem to be a bit of a non-story, there’s nothing much on this recording, if there was it would have come out in the original report. When the police attended, they were only there for a few minutes, and had no concerns. There’s certainly no evidence, or suggestion, of any domestic violence or abuse.

What has come out is that Carrie Symonds was a victim of the black cab rapist, John Worboys, who had pleaded guilty to four more charges on Thursday, which must have brought back horrific memories for her.

Johnson was on a ‘high’ knowing Gove was out of the leadership contest, and you can imagine he was so wrapped-up in his self, that he had little, if any, thought for how she was feeling, resulting in a lack of emotional support.

He spilt red wine on her cream coloured cushioned sofa, and understandably she lost it, shouting that he doesn’t care about anything, etc. It got a bit heated for a few moments, but soon calmed down, end of story.

Doesn’t alter the fact that he’s a twat & totally unsuitable for Prime Minister, but sadly is still likely to become PM.

Speaking of the Graun, they have this too.

Video reveals Steve Bannon links to Boris Johnson

New evidence suggesting close links between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump’s controversial former campaign manager Steve Bannon can be revealed today, calling into question the former foreign secretary’s previous denials of an association with the influential far-right activist.

Video evidence obtained by the Observer shows Bannon, who helped mastermind Trump’s successful bid for the presidency but was later exiled from the White House, talking about his relationship and contacts with Johnson, and how he helped him craft the first speech after his resignation as foreign secretary, in which Johnson tore into Theresa May’s Brexit strategy.

This to me is a more important story, raising further questions over his honesty.

 

[Balbi]

Good to see Harry Cole defending Johnson having a furious row with the ex-girlfriend of Cole who Boris was shagging behind his back. What a lad.

 

[Proper Tidy]

The people who will choose the UK's next prime minister

 

[kabbes]

Three Tory councillors/members on R4 yesterday — one for BJ, one for JH, one undecided. All in total agreement that this BJ story is totally irrelevant — “it doesn’t matter what goes on behind closed doors” was an actual quote from one of them. They literally DGAF about any of this.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Three Tory councillors/members on R4 yesterday — one for BJ, one for JH, one undecided. All in total agreement that this BJ story is totally irrelevant — “it doesn’t matter what goes on behind closed doors” was an actual quote from one of them. They literally DGAF about any of this.

With Symonds now coming out and saying it was politically motivated exploitation of a minor and normal relationship tiff, don't think this will have any impact on Johnson. May even be a positive for him, builds that fortress mentality, innocuates against future stories/skeletons

 

[Poi E]

The people who will choose the UK's next prime minister

Yet they head right, not left. FFS.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Yet they head right, not left. FFS.

Doesn't say they disagree with the iniquities they've identified tbf

 

[Artaxerxes]

The people who will choose the UK's next prime minister

Best collaborate to get a slice?

 

[tommers]

The people who will choose the UK's next prime minister

That reminds me of when Heidi Allen went on a tour of food banks and seemed really confused about who had caused all of this poverty.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Yet they head right, not left. FFS.

But they head right for cultural reasons, that's one of the fundamental drivers for this whole mess.

Listen to them rationalising it. Their language is mostly about morality, cultural dominance etc. You might get a bit of facts and logic now and again, but they don't go anwhere much before they get stomped by a thought-stopping cliche based on morality and/or group identity.

 

[agricola]

With Symonds now coming out and saying it was politically motivated exploitation of a minor and normal relationship tiff, don't think this will have any impact on Johnson. May even be a positive for him, builds that fortress mentality, innocuates against future stories/skeletons

Has she actually come out and said that, though? All the reports I have seen have been "a friend of" saying that on her behalf - which given that her ex Harry Cole works for the Mail could easily just mean he said it.

A rather better indication of things might be todays MoS, which has actually run an article which reads an awful lot like a hit piece on her. I won't link to it, but here are some highlights for those who won't go and read it for themselves:

Bright, engaging and dynamic, Ms Symonds is seen as a popular figure around Westminster. Many believe she is behind the dramatic improvement in Boris's political and personal self-discipline since the relationship began last year.

But as Boris draws ever closer to Downing Street, there are growing concerns that her own ambitions maybe complicating his campaign.

Back in 2007, when she met Haiste, that ambition was not yet fully formed – indeed, as he recalls today, she very nearly avoided politics altogether in order to become an actress.

The pair were introduced by a mutual friend while Carrie was studying drama and history of art at Warwick, and Oliver had graduated from University College London and was himself dabbling in Tory Party politics.

They enjoyed romantic holidays in Kenya and Rome and went to music festivals. For Haiste, she held an extraordinary magnetism, and was a thoughtful and caring partner who would hand-make birthday gifts, including a photo collage of the pair.

She acted in a series of amateur productions and had mastered the tricky skill of being able to burst into tears on demand.

Such was her talent that she was invited to attend the final casting sessions for a supporting role in the film adaptation of Ian McEwan's novel Atonement, the 2007 war tragedy starring Keira Knightley and James McAvoy.

However, it was a crushing disappointment to learn that she had not made the final cut. It was this, says Haiste, which helped convince her that she would have to find an alternative career.

'I think her first passion was always to have been an actress,' he says. 'That's what she said at the time. But obviously it's such a difficult career to get into.'

When she attended the official launch of the campaign earlier this month, she, too, appeared to have had a stylish and demure makeover. The blonde hair was less brassy; the outfit a mid-length Karen Millen frock paired with a (probably fake) Hermes clutch.

Yet although she appeared keen to stay away from the direct glare of flashbulbs and television cameras, political insiders say this belies the starring role she is keen to adopt behind the scenes.

Indeed, there have already been unfavourable comparisons with Baroness Marcia Falkender, the private secretary of former Prime Minister Harold Wilson, who became an indispensable – and highly influential – political aide behind the scenes.

Some note, for example, that Ms Symonds has always been rather too keen to meddle, despite no longer being an official part of the Tory machine. Their concerns apparently extend further to what will happen if Boris does get the keys to No 10, and is accompanied by Ms Symonds as his official 'consort'. They worry that her strong views and principles may interrupt the smooth running of the Prime Minister's office at what is likely to be a critical juncture in history for both the party and the country.

But as might be expected in such a febrile world, opinions vary, and Ms Symonds, too, has her critics. 'Carrie likes it to be thought that she's responsible for the new, purposeful, determined, slimmed-down Boris. But that's not really true,' says another friend of the leadership contender.

'Boris always slims down when he wants to go for something.

'The idea that Carrie Symonds is the only woman in the world who can change Boris into an effective politician is nonsense.

'He is 55. He's not going to change. There's a huge disparity in age and outlook. '

The source suggests, too, that Boris may be regretting the end of his marriage to barrister Ms Wheeler, the mother of four of his five children.

'Marina was the best political adviser in the world to Boris.

'What Boris really wants in a woman is a home-maker. Although Marina had a highly professional job, she only worked part-time when the children were young. She made sure there was supper on the table when he got home.

'Boris is like a broken reed. The joy seems to have gone out of him.

'He rushed into a relationship because he can't bear to live alone. He gets totally depressed if he's on his own.'

 

[Proper Tidy]

Has she actually come out and said that, though? All the reports I have seen have been "a friend of" saying that on her behalf - which given that her ex Harry Cole works for the Mail could easily just mean he said it.

A rather better indication of things might be todays MoS, which has actually run an article which reads an awful lot like a hit piece on her. I won't link to it, but here are some highlights for those who won't go and read it for themselves:

Crikey. "(probably fake)"

You're right too, I read a Scum report which I thought was direct from Symonds but read it again and its a source

 

[Rivendelboy]

That reminds me of when Heidi Allen went on a tour of food banks and seemed really confused about who had caused all of this poverty.

Should have looked at her own voting record then

 

[newbie]

Whether she just innocently fell in love or is a manipulating, scheming actress, her position comes with power, which will increase if they get to No 10. She's a former Conservative press officer so she'll have a few clues as to how to spin, and she'll know, and have had an independent professional relationship with, many of the journalists involved, all of whom will be very keen to talk to her.

So if their whirlwind romance crashes and burns she could be a potent enemy.... somewhat more of a hostage to fortune than a spouse of 30 years like May, Cameron or any of the rest.

 

[Poot]

Whether she just innocently fell in love or is a manipulating, scheming actress, her position comes with power, which will increase if they get to No 10. She's a former Conservative press officer so she'll have a few clues as to how to spin, and she'll know, and have had an independent professional relationship with, many of the journalists involved, all of whom will be very keen to talk to her.

So if their whirlwind romance crashes and burns she could be a potent enemy.... somewhat more of a hostage to fortune than a spouse of 30 years like May, Cameron or any of the rest.

I'm pretty sure that there is already a queue of women with a grudge. I think you're overestimating how much people are willing to listen to them.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I think it's more a question of which people are willing to listen, and would be actively concerned about Johnson's (or for that matter Mark Field's) behaviour towards women.

Probably a few people on the 'progressive' right, but nobody in Brexitville or Torytown is listening to them right now ...

... and everybody else already hates Boris like poison anyhow.

 

[Poot]

He could grab her by the p***y and he'd still be prime minister at this stage...

 

[agricola]

I'm pretty sure that there is already a queue of women with a grudge. I think you're overestimating how much people are willing to listen to them.

When it comes to Boris (or at least, Boris at this point in time), you are right. If this last week tells us nothing else its that anyone who gets in the way of Boris is going to get stomped - be that another leadership candidate, those two blokes in the debates, that head of the Conservative Muslim Forum, his neighbours and now his girlfriend it seems.

 

[weltweit]

I don't think Boris has it in the bag, there are a lot of hustings remaining and plenty of opportunity for gaffes while Jeremy Hunt wasn't too bad in the first hustings and many in the audience (if the BBC News are to be believed) thought Hunt did better than Johnson.

 

[Proper Tidy]

My mum (hardcore remain ultra these days) sent me a text earlier calling him Brump. Fucks sake

 

[Serge Forward]

It'd be nice if people stopped referring to the cunt as "Boris" though. I was recently watching "The Papers" on BBC News channel and that vile smear of shit, Tim Montgomery, was bellyaching over some of the press using the term "Johnson" rather than "Boris". Come on you lot, get with it.

 

[Poot]

It'd be nice if people stopped referring to the cunt as "Boris" though. I was recently watching "The Papers" on BBC News channel and that vile smear of shit, Tim Montgomery, was bellyaching over some of the press using the term "Johnson" rather than "Boris". Come on you lot, get with it.

It's not even his real first name. I think he decided to call himself it because he's so wacky. 'Everyone calls me Boris' he lied.

 

[andysays]

Looks like not everyone is going to allow it to drop
Boris Johnson should give 'explanation' for home row

International Trade Secretary Liam Fox said it would be "easier" for Boris Johnson to "just give an explanation" about the row recorded at his home. The MP said reports of the row between Mr Johnson and his partner should not be a "distraction" from policy discussion in the leadership race.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, Mr Fox - who backs Jeremy Hunt in the leadership race - said: "It's always easier to just give an explanation. "The key thing is then how you get on to the issues. What we can't have is it being a distraction from explanations about wider policy."

 

[newbie]

I'm pretty sure that there is already a queue of women with a grudge. I think you're overestimating how much people are willing to listen to them.

Understood, but it's her he's besotted with, her credited with his image revamp, her he's listening to. She has power over him, they don't.

Anyway the stakes are higher now, plus she is news not history- future PM Johnson discusses with her not them and privately he can't be 100% sure she's fully committed nor what her longterm ambitions are. The consort of the leader always has power within the court and a voice (spoken, attributed to a source or background briefed) that can extend much further than someone who spilt beans years ago. Whatever media access previous women in his life have, she outranks them as a former Conservative party communications chief who was named as the UK’s second most powerful public relations professional by PR Week magazine.
And she was intimately involved at CCHQ during the fake news/Cambridge Analytica campaigns around the referendum and GE, so must know her way around the dark arts and where a good few bodies are buried.

If he organises his life such that his relationships break up with grudges he's walking on eggshells.

 

[Poot]

I must admit it would be lovely if he was brought down by her. I don't like either of them or the Tory party so all good. I just can't imagine his popularity waining. Instead I can foresee a witchhunt against her and the anti-feminism movement growing. I'd like to be proved wrong though.