Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

[kebabking]

I look forward to reading Graylings' manifesto - burn all the paperwork!

 

[Badgers]

I look forward to reading Graylings' manifesto - burn all the paperwork!

Is that not what May did with the pedo files?

 

[brogdale]

Grayling would afford useful cover so that others couldn't be styled as the thickest candidate...

 

[brogdale]

Wrong'un dial to 11+

 

[tedsplitter]

In Twitter jail for 12 hours because I said I hope Boris Johnson dies. I do though.

 

[Gerry1time]

He’ll probably end up as leader of the Liberal Democrats by accident somehow.

That should sort out their financial issues then, as Grayling has to buy himself out of their party and back into his own one. Using public money.

 

[A380]

Borris is to the Tories what Charlie is to the monarchy.

 

[Badgers]

Rory Stewart has stated he can't serve under Johnson. Whilst this whole thing is repellant it will hopefully cause a load more division and resignations.

Good start
The Guardian: Stop Boris campaign launched by Tory moderates opposed to no-deal Brexit.
Stop Boris campaign launched by Tory moderates opposed to no-deal Brexit

 

[agricola]

Wrong'un dial to 11+

that is the kind of running that makes me worried for the innocence of that packet of bagels

 

[redsquirrel]

killer b ' s man Gove set to announce, according to BBC

Michael Gove is due to enter the race for Tory leader, challenging his former Vote Leave ally Boris Johnson.

It means the two figureheads of the official Leave campaign will battle for the right to steer the Brexit process to a conclusion

 

[Poi E]

Gove not officially running. Waddling, perhaps.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Gove has now confirmed he's going for it.

Michael Gove CONFIRMS Tory leadership bid with swipe at Boris Johnson and Raab

 

[brogdale]

The Cunty pageant grows ever larger.

 

[Kaka Tim]

also - we haven't the confirmation of the tories disaster in the EUs yet. When that happens the focus will be to win back their voters from farage - so they will be all be trying to out-brexit each other. I dont see anyone who isn't a promising a full bloodied brexit having any chance at all - if anything the threat to Johnson will come from the likes of Raab and McVile as being "tougher on europe".
Hunt and Hancock and any others who are less than enthusiastic for "no deal" have fuck all chance.
The real fun will come when the brexiteer led government meets reality as we approach the oct 31 deadline.

 

[brogdale]

also - we haven't the confirmation of the tories disaster in the EUs yet. When that happens the focus will be to win back their voters from farage - so they will be all be trying to out-brexit each other. I dont see anyone who isn't a promising a full bloodied brexit having any chance at all - if anything the threat to Johnson will come from the likes of Raab and McVile as being "tougher on europe".
Hunt and Hancock and any others who are less than enthusiastic for "no deal" have fuck all chance.
The real fun will come when the brexiteer led government meets reality as we approach the oct 31 deadline.

Yep, that 12% share of a national election is sure gonna sting.

 

[kebabking]

Yep, that 12% share of a national election is sure gonna sting.

I'm not sure it stings as much as those outside the Tory electorate think it does.

The Tory electorate - and membership, and MP's - are far more Eurosceptic (regardless of whether leave or remain) that the electorate/membership of the other parties, they simply don't care about European elections and never have. It's an irrelevance as far as they are concerned, Tory members, voters, and MP's have always happily voted for other parties in European elections precisely because they view them as being clown elections, not anything that matters.

That feeling has been massively amplified by the almost certainty that these MEP's, who no one in the Tory sphere cares about anyway, will be MEP's for matter of months - that gave the Tory electorate (and the party) a complete carte blanche to vote clown - they also know that by voting brexit they send a shot across the parties (and parliaments?) bows to just get the thing done, as well as potentially having some impact on the stance of the EU parliament and the formation of the commission in those bodies dealings with brexit.

When a new PM is in place, and the Westminster voting intentions are under 30%, then they'll worry, but not until then.

 

[DotCommunist]

ALL BETS ARE OFF PEOPLE

Just heard Grayling is going for it

he's thrown his ring into the hat

 

[Kaka Tim]

Yep, that 12% share of a national election is sure gonna sting.

yeah - results out this evening. that'll ratchet up the shit storm a few notches

 

[brogdale]

I'm not sure it stings as much as those outside the Tory electorate think it does.

The Tory electorate - and membership, and MP's - are far more Eurosceptic (regardless of whether leave or remain) that the electorate/membership of the other parties, they simply don't care about European elections and never have. It's an irrelevance as far as they are concerned, Tory members, voters, and MP's have always happily voted for other parties in European elections precisely because they view them as being clown elections, not anything that matters.

That feeling has been massively amplified by the almost certainty that these MEP's, who no one in the Tory sphere cares about anyway, will be MEP's for matter of months - that gave the Tory electorate (and the party) a complete carte blanche to vote clown - they also know that by voting brexit they send a shot across the parties (and parliaments?) bows to just get the thing done, as well as potentially having some impact on the stance of the EU parliament and the formation of the commission in those bodies dealings with brexit.

When a new PM is in place, and the Westminster voting intentions are under 30%, then they'll worry, but not until then.

I'm not sure it stings as much as those outside the Tory electorate think it does.

The Tory electorate - and membership, and MP's - are far more Eurosceptic (regardless of whether leave or remain) that the electorate/membership of the other parties, they simply don't care about European elections and never have. It's an irrelevance as far as they are concerned, Tory members, voters, and MP's have always happily voted for other parties in European elections precisely because they view them as being clown elections, not anything that matters.

That feeling has been massively amplified by the almost certainty that these MEP's, who no one in the Tory sphere cares about anyway, will be MEP's for matter of months - that gave the Tory electorate (and the party) a complete carte blanche to vote clown - they also know that by voting brexit they send a shot across the parties (and parliaments?) bows to just get the thing done, as well as potentially having some impact on the stance of the EU parliament and the formation of the commission in those bodies dealings with brexit.

When a new PM is in place, and the Westminster voting intentions are under 30%, then they'll worry, but not until then.

Yes and no.
Don't dispute what you say about tories' past attitudes to the Euro elections, but the specific context of this set mean that the result will be weaponised and assume greater than usual import within the leadership contest.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I'm not sure it stings as much as those outside the Tory electorate think it does.

The Tory electorate - and membership, and MP's - are far more Eurosceptic (regardless of whether leave or remain) that the electorate/membership of the other parties, they simply don't care about European elections and never have. It's an irrelevance as far as they are concerned, Tory members, voters, and MP's have always happily voted for other parties in European elections precisely because they view them as being clown elections, not anything that matters.

That feeling has been massively amplified by the almost certainty that these MEP's, who no one in the Tory sphere cares about anyway, will be MEP's for matter of months - that gave the Tory electorate (and the party) a complete carte blanche to vote clown - they also know that by voting brexit they send a shot across the parties (and parliaments?) bows to just get the thing done, as well as potentially having some impact on the stance of the EU parliament and the formation of the commission in those bodies dealings with brexit.

When a new PM is in place, and the Westminster voting intentions are under 30%, then they'll worry, but not until then.

brexit party are taking a massive chunk out of tory voting intention in westminster polls as well. Sure - that will go down to an extent - but if the tories continue to fail on delivering brexit then they can look at polling under 30%. And they cant deliver any sort of brexit that will satisfy the faragists - other than a suicidal no deal. They fed the beast - now its going to eat them.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Is that not what May did with the pedo files?

Well, shredded and she probably had minions do it for her but yes.

 

[Combustible]

When that happens the focus will be to win back their voters from farage - so they will be all be trying to out-brexit each other. I dont see anyone who isn't a promising a full bloodied brexit having any chance at all - if anything the threat to Johnson will come from the likes of Raab and McVile as being "tougher on europe".

The suggestion seems to be that this might help Johnson get enough support from the parliamentary party, the logic being that if the new leader must be someone calling for a no-deal Brexit, then you best pick the biggest and most shameless lying cunt, who is most likely to go back on their word.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Stuck a tenner on Raab. So probably Pob or the Latin cunt

 

[Winot]

also - we haven't the confirmation of the tories disaster in the EUs yet. When that happens the focus will be to win back their voters from farage - so they will be all be trying to out-brexit each other. I dont see anyone who isn't a promising a full bloodied brexit having any chance at all - if anything the threat to Johnson will come from the likes of Raab and McVile as being "tougher on europe".
Hunt and Hancock and any others who are less than enthusiastic for "no deal" have fuck all chance.
The real fun will come when the brexiteer led government meets reality as we approach the oct 31 deadline.

Agree with all of this. How the fuck has it come to pass that Johnson is the compromise candidate?

 

[stavros]

Regardless of who has the honorific title of PM, we know who really wields power at Number 10:

 

[8ball]

Regardless of who has the honorific title of PM, we know who really wields power at Number 10:

If only.

 

[Humberto]

Labour would kill the Conservatives in a general election just on the basic message. Punish the old anyone?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

If only.

firm and fluffy leadership in the national interest

 

[DotCommunist]

Sajid Javid also standing. Which means my prediction has not fallen at the first hurdle.

 

[planetgeli]

Sajid Javid, standing.