Who is going to win the 2016 Tory leadership election?

[Wilf]

What a colossal shithouse he is. He's either panicked by the result of a ref he didn't want to win and only lead out of self interest or because he thinks gove's candidacy makes it difficult for him to win. He also lost momentum by going into hiding the last few days. Fucking coward.

 

[J Ed]

Surprised I am only one of three to vote Gove.

I reckon he will pip the homophobe and the Theresa 'a policeman in every bedroom' May

 

[J Ed]

Boles, Raab, Hayes, Gibb,

I reckon Boles will be a contender on the next go round. A truly odious and slimey individual, would make a perfect Tory leader.

 

[killer b]

Surprised I am only one of three to vote Gove.

I reckon he will pip the homophobe and the Theresa 'a policeman in every bedroom' May

we'd all voted before he became a contender tbf

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Will Theresa May win then call a snap general election?

 

[J Ed]

Will Theresa May win then call a snap general election?

She says no.

If the Tories pick Crabb or Gove I reckon Corbyn could win, outside of the Tory Party who likes these charisma-free losers?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Labour really need to get their act together

 

[mk12]

What will liberal identity politicos do if faced with the choice of an old, white, male progressive and a female Tory?

 

[killer b]

they won't be faced with that, cause Gove is going to win the leadership

 

[wheelie_bin]

What a colossal shithouse he is. He's either panicked by the result of a ref he didn't want to win and only lead out of self interest or because he thinks gove's candidacy makes it difficult for him to win. He also lost momentum by going into hiding the last few days. Fucking coward.

He wasn't in hiding, he was gathering supporters ready to launch his bid. Supporters who turned around and knifed him in the back as soon as he did.


*searches soul*


*searches heart*


*searches soul again*

Nope, no sympathy here.

 

[wheelie_bin]

they won't be faced with that, cause Gove is going to win the leadership

Gove may lose when it's put to membership. I think he will in fact. They know fine well that he's hated.

 

[J Ed]

What will liberal identity politicos do if faced with the choice of an old, white, male progressive and a female Tory?

I think that our liberals haven't degenerated quite to the stage of supporting May over Corbyn on a similar basis to their US equivalents with Sanders and Clinton.

 

[1%er]

I've just had an interesting Skype with a friend who is a retired union official and served on Merton Council with Teresa May during the 1980's. Apparently at that time, she was to the right of Thatcher, wanted to privatize almost all the council services and was vehemently anti European.

 

[8ball]

I voted for Crabb, just in case he has a 'heemaphobe get out of jail free card'.

 

[Lurdan]

I'm getting the impression listening to various Tories on the radio that Gove has made some enemies over the way he knifed Boris to add to some he made during the referendum campaign. I don't think he has this in the bag.

It will be interesting to see where Boris' declared supporters go. Boris has apparently stated he will not be making a public endorsement for anyone, but I think it's obvious he won't be voting for his former bff.

Hilarious btl comment yesterday at Conservative Home from user '150quidonboris'

See my username, nearly all of the membership will vote for him. He's the epitome of a Tory leader and will probably serve at least 10 years. I tell u what the bookies are giving away money on those odds, this is going to make me rich.

 

[Wilf]

To misquote the great farage, 'well I'm not falling over now'.

 

[Lurdan]

The Gove party seems to be losing a little momentum. His total of declared supporters has dropped from 13 to 11 although along the way he has picked up Jacob Rees-Mogg. (Worst Stag Night Ever).

Negative briefing against him being reported.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fucking hell.

 

[kebabking]

Fucking hell.

i'd put very good money on it being froth - its both an election strategy and a signal of a possible negotiating position with the EU - no one in the Tory party thinks this is a good idea in practice, more that its a good idea to start letting the EU know that the Brexit negotiation isn't going to be a wishlist with 'pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase' written at the bottom.

you'll have noted that she's publicly ditched her personal policy on leaving the ECHR because she accepts it has little support - she's done that to gather support from the libertarian left of the party, if she wants their support she can't pedal too hard on the issue of residency of existing EU citizens.

 

[danny la rouge]

i'd put very good money on it being froth - its both an election strategy and a signal of a possible negotiating position with the EU - no one in the Tory party thinks this is a good idea in practice, more that its a good idea to start letting the EU know that the Brexit negotiation isn't going to be a wishlist with 'pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase' written at the bottom.

Well, indeed. But its damage is in giving legitimacy to repatriation language. A potential PM who is saying that people who are currently legally living here, who were told during the campaign "of course you can stay", might have to be repatriated. Bargaining stance or not, it has now been said. By someone who might be PM within weeks. Forced repatriation of legal residents as a mainstream idea.

That's stomach churning.

 

[JimW]

To misquote the great farage, 'well I'm not falling over now'.

Got his Kinnock on the beach moment in early, I see. Machiavellian!

 

[8ball]

<snip>

Though not a 'like' like iyswim.

 

[Wilf]

Kinnock on the beach

One of the names cocktail manufacturers rejected?

 

[kebabking]

Well, indeed. But its damage is in giving legitimacy to repatriation language. A potential PM who is saying that people who are currently legally living here, who were told during the campaign "of course you can stay", might have to be repatriated. Bargaining stance or not, it has now been said. By someone who might be PM within weeks. Forced repatriation of legal residents as a mainstream idea.

That's stomach churning.

true, hardly edifying - lets be honest though, it was always going to be a subject in the negotiations, if one pretty much everyone wanted sorted quickly and quietly. no mentioning didn't mean it wasn't an issue.

its not something i like though, and i'm slightly surprised May brought it up - i would have assumed that the Great Arse Fox would have done so and drawn the opprobrium...

 

[SaskiaJayne]

May on R4 stated no GE until 2020 if she wins.

 

[danny la rouge]

its not something i like though, and i'm slightly surprised May brought it up

I'm looking for it mentioned other than that tweet from Sam Coates. Anyone else seen it anywhere?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Whoever Rupert Murdoch wants ...

 

[Supine]

Looks like the smart money is on May to win. If it's anything like urbans prediction for the referendum result she hasn't got a chance.

And jeez, did she look like Thatcher in today's speech

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm looking for it mentioned other than that tweet from Sam Coates. Anyone else seen it anywhere?

Everything I find leads back to Coates. Not that I'm saying he can't be trusted on this. But I'd like another source to corroborate.

 

[Lurdan]

Everything I find leads back to Coates. Not that I'm saying he can't be trusted on this. But I'd like another source to corroborate.

Just done a search on The Times site - nothing about this by him or anyone else as far as I can see. Could be for tomorrows paper.