Well, you'll have to ask to what purpose the FBI destroyed hours of radar records. Where's the testimony from the operators that tracked flights 11 and 175? We know flight 77 disappeared from radar, mysteriously, so that one is taken care of.editor said:Lots of my questions still remain unanswered.
What happened to the 'real' planes and passengers and how come no one noticed the switch?
Or was the plane - like the missiles, according to you - blessed with invisibility?
Have you ever apologised for that disgraceful thread? Will you do so now?DrJazzz said:Are you guys STILL obsessed with diverting every thread I post on into Huntley?
Loki said:Have you ever apologised for that disgraceful thread? Will you do so now?
He has? News to me. And I don't like your implication that I'm a sycophant for thinking DrJazzz et al are conspiracy fans.flimsier said:He has; don't be a toady on this thread.
Loki said:He has? News to me. And I don't like your implication that I'm a sycophant for thinking DrJazzz et al are conspiracy fans.
Lock&Light said:Don't worry, Loki. Flimsey probably didn't mean it like it sounded. That's what he always used to say to me, at least.
flimsier said:BTW, when the ed said 'don't call him CocknShite and he won't call you flimsy fart' - ie messing with usernames, did you pay attention.
Because you'll notice that I haven't called you the above since, but you've said the offensive towards me eight times (I was going to wait until double figures)...
Just that I have tried to be friendly, as I'm sure you'll agree. I'm still trying. I publicly apologised -and would have privately. YOu don't seem able to accept - and youstill unfortunately seem to wade in to other threads....!
DrJazzz said:Are you guys STILL obsessed with diverting every thread I post on into Huntley?
I appreciate the assistance flimsier but I didn't apologise for being wrong about Huntely per se, I apologised wholeheartedly for one particularly heated thread about the BBC commiting perjury (which was wrong) and accepted that it looked like Huntely was guilty after all once his previous came out. I am sorry the whole thing caused such a ruckus, and my tone would be different if it happened all over again. But I don't think I should apologise specifically for being 'wrong' and suggesting that a man not yet found guilty might be innocent (I never said I was certain of that). No-one's ever apologised to me on the threads where they have been wrong - there's been many, many occasions of that. why should they? We are free to get it 'wrong'. It would be nice, however, if there wasn't so much personal abuse flying around.flimsier said:He's said he's sorry for being wrong; which is what he was.
I think DJ is a loony on these issues.
I'm calling youj a sycophant because you are. Not on this issue alone. Just generally.
Lock&Light said:I was talking to someone else.
BTW, I am not of the opinion that you have ever apologised to me at all.
flimsier said:You almost exclusively (at a guess over 90%, but I haven't done any investigating) post on board politics (which can sometimes be the most interesting threads), something that can be described as arse-licking, or imply that someone should be banned. There are a large number of posters that I know personally who dislike this - and I am not talking about ern, PsM or RednBlack - I'm talking about others - and if they're a representative sample it can be called 'large number'.
You also lie. Not overtly in a way to wind people up, like the 'orange' slander, but with things like 'I didn't start it' or 'well the post from the editor telling people to cool it can't be aimed at me, because I haven't tried to get involved' (I'm paraphrasing).
I once had a very reasonable conversation with you about the Netherlands, some time ago. Us both having lived there, it was a decent thread and I had a high opinion of you. In my opinion, you've asked for the trouble you've had and I do think you are an unpopular poster as a result. Possibly the most unpopular poster. If you changed this and started posting on threads with reference to their titles (without trying to turn it into board politics or focussing on the board politics side of any thread) your reputation, I think, would change quickly.
I am not trying to excuse the posting style or individual posts of any poster, including myself.
Please don't become defensive about this, because I'm only writing to you because it seemed like you actually cared about it today - and I do have a heart and felt sorry.
I'm trying to tell you why I get wound up by you, and why I think (and there is, as I said, anecdotal evidence for this) others do.
Ignore if you wish. This was a genuine attempt to help.
FWIW, I apologise for previous pms I sent.
DrJazzz said:No-one's ever apologised to me on the threads where they have been wrong - there's been many, many occasions of that.
I meant have you a problem with me you can't resolve?flimsier said:Locknlight. I tried, and am trying. I wanted to send a pm. Have you a problem you can't resolve.
(I'm not being funny!)
flimsier said:Have you a problem you can't resolve.
DrJazzz said:I appreciate the assistance flimsier but I didn't apologise for being wrong about Huntely per se, I apologised wholeheartedly for one particularly heated thread about the BBC commiting perjury (which was wrong) and accepted that it looked like Huntely was guilty after all once his previous came out. I am sorry the whole thing caused such a ruckus, and my tone would be different if it happened all over again. But I don't think I should apologise specifically for being 'wrong' and suggesting that a man not yet found guilty might be innocent (I never said I was certain of that). No-one's ever apologised to me on the threads where they have been wrong - there's been many, many occasions of that. why should they? We are free to get it 'wrong'. It would be nice, however, if there wasn't so much personal abuse flying around.
Lock&Light said:I've been following your postings for years. When have you ever been proved right? Any occasion whould do as an example.
Oh gosh, I diverted a thread about 9-11 conspiracy theories with my discussion of 9-11 conspiracy theory. Pretty big diversion, huh? Especially when it had settled into talking about moon landings.pk said:As long as YOU'RE still obsessed with diverting every 9/11 thread into a discussion of your wank theories.
I guess I mean; despite my attempts - do you want to make an enemy of me?Lock&Light said:I haven't, but I fear for you.
A sycophant to whom? And what's with the off-topic abuse?flimsier said:He's said he's sorry for being wrong; which is what he was.
I think DJ is a loony on these issues.
I'm calling youj a sycophant because you are. Not on this issue alone. Just generally.
flimsier said:I guess I mean; despite my attempts - do you want to make an enemy of me?
I hope not.
Pingu said:just so I can get something straight in my head...
is there an allegation that non of the planes were actually real and that no passangers were actually killed?
serious moment here.
bear with me on this as it has a lot of relevance
Loki said:A sycophant to whom? And what's with the off-topic abuse?
DrJazzz said:Oh gosh, I diverted a thread about 9-11 conspiracy theories with my discussion of 9-11 conspiracy theory. Pretty big diversion, huh? Especially when it had settled into talking about moon landings.
Go and bother someone else pk. I don't think anyone much admires your 'unending stream of piss' posting behaviour these days, anyway, apart from a few newbies who reason it's better to be on your side of the stream.
Lock&Light said:Flimsier, my dear chap. Please understand that until you started attacking me the only reason I had to notice you was because of your rather dramatic adventures during the terrible tsunami.
After you started to attack me, and then obsessivly follow me around, I grew to rather dislike you. But you are not my enemy, flimsier, because you don't register enough on my radar.
flimsier said:What's funny is that the posters who read my posts telling the truth are more upset with me than those who talk about them being wankers behind their backs.
Well ok then.