video debunking 9/11 conspiracies

[Loki]

You may think it was off topic. I'll withdraw from the debate. You do suck up to the owner of the site (from my perspective). No disrespect intended - I just couldn't live with myself if I didn't say what I think.

So calling me a "toady" isn't "disrespect"? In fact I've prolly exchanged more words with DrJazzz than the editor in real life. He's a top bloke, it's just on these conspiraloon threads that I happen to agree 100% with the ed. If that makes me a "toady" in your eyes then so be it - I couldn't give a shit.

 

[flimsier]

Of course, your ludicrous claims regarding 9/11 are admired by all and sundry aren't they?

Your claims that all vaccines are more harmful than the diseases themselves, and you having the nerve to attempt to talk worried parents out of giving their children potentially lifesaving injections such as the MMR, and you wonder why there's so much personal abuse flying your way.

I insult you because I think you're a paranoid full-of-shit twat who should just stick to playing piano.

But nothing I can say to you is as insulting as your insistance that calls made from aircraft to their loved ones before the planes hit on 9/11 were actually placed by impersinators.

Or that the hundreds of people who saw an aircraft hit the Pentagon actually saw a missile instead, according to your David Icke bollocks.

I disagree entirely.

The vaccines stuff is the worst because it is real. I don't care what people think about 9/11 or who did it or Huntley, because none of those things will cause as many deaths as encouraging people not to vaccinate their child at all.

And I have read DrJ's posts seriously, and they are all wacky!

 

[Lock&Light]

So why follow me with 'flimsy fart' bollocks?

<genuine question>

I have only used the 'flimsy fart' retort during heated exchanges or as a response to another of your sudden appearances on a thread where I'd been posting and where you thought another dig at me was permissible.

This thread has now been derailed enough. I hope you'll understand that I no longer always feel inclined to reply to you.

 

[Pingu]

I'd come back from lunch, if I was you. A lot has happened since you went out.

yeah I kinda saw the aftermath of the car crash


however you never know it could get back onto the rails

 

[flimsier]

How is it possible to talk behind anyone's back on a bulletin board?

Was this a serious question? Because I'd pm you the answer if you'd let me.

I think that 'behind someone's back' on a bulletin board is on a thread they haven't contributed to.

ie they probably won't see it.

Locknlight....any chance of a pm or two over the next few days..?

 

[Jazzz]

just so I can get something straight in my head...

is there an allegation that non of the planes were actually real and that no passangers were actually killed?

serious moment here.


bear with me on this as it has a lot of relevance

Absolutely not. Planes took off and they had real passengers on board. And they surely died. How, is being questioned.

 

[Lock&Light]

Locknlight....any chance of a pm or two over the next few days..?

NO.... CHANCE.... AT.... ALL.

 

[flimsier]

I have only used the 'flimsy fart' retort during heated exchanges or as a response to another of your sudden appearances on a thread where I'd been posting and where you thought another dig at me was permissible.

This thread has now been derailed enough. I hope you'll understand that I no longer always feel inclined to reply to you.

I think, as fair as I see your board persona being, that you've use 'flimsy fart' when arriving on any thread whatever.

As I said, I'm happy to pm. Ignore me and click on 'view posts' every time you see me will stop pms were I to be offensive.

 

[pk]

I disagree entirely.

The vaccines stuff is the worst because it is real. I don't care what people think about 9/11 or who did it or Huntley, because none of those things will cause as many deaths as encouraging people not to vaccinate their child at all.

And I have read DrJ's posts seriously, and they are all wacky!

I'll take the piss out of his ridiculous 9/11 theories, but as a parent who has had to have my child inoculated with the MMR, and gone through the worry of it, to have that worry exacerbated by an obsessed paranoid shitcunt pianist who hasn't a fucking clue about such things is enough to warrant any amount of abuse I choose to dish out.

And his cuntishness is made worse by his absolute refusal to accept patiently aquired HARD EVIDENCE when it's staring at him.

As long as everyone knows he's a deliberately lying cunt when it comes to vaccines advice, he can't do any harm.

 

[flimsier]

NO.... CHANCE.... AT.... ALL.

Why are you being so unreasonable.

I would give you permission to post any pm I send on the publicboards. I mean that. I trust you to not doctor the pm. So, I don't think I'd sent an abusive pm, but if you think I did (or, even if you didn't) you can post it up - permission granted.

Ok: 1 pm: for the sake of board sanity. Why not let me send a pm (more if you want) to say what I think needs to be said.

(Or pm me a temporary email address is the same thing).

 

[Lock&Light]

Why are you being so unreasonable.

I would give you permission to post any pm I send on the publicboards. I mean that. I trust you to not doctor the pm. So, I don't think I'd sent an abusive pm, but if you think I did (or, even if you didn't) you can post it up - permission granted.

Ok: 1 pm: for the sake of board sanity. Why not let me send a pm (more if you want) to say what I think needs to be said.

(Or pm me a temporary email address is the same thing).

Try to bear up, flims. (See, I can avoid using the diminutive form.)

 

[flimsier]

I'll take the piss out of his ridiculous 9/11 theories, but as a parent who has had to have my child inoculated with the MMR, and gone through the worry of it, to have that worry exacerbated by an obsessed paranoid shitcunt pianist who hasn't a fucking clue about such things is enough to warrant any amount of abuse I choose to dish out.

And his cuntishness is made worse by his absolute refusal to accept patiently aquired HARD EVIDENCE when it's staring at him.

As long as everyone knows he's a deliberately lying cunt when it comes to vaccines advice, he can't do any harm.

But pk (and from previous posts this is your position) the Huntley stuff is not harmful - just wrong. If the Birmingham 6 had been guilty, I'd have been wrong and I've had said so. That's not so bad that I'd got it wrong (though I actually hadn't!)

Anyway, my point being, you can robustly criticise what they say on here - and especially DrJ, but ask for apologies for more important things.

 

[flimsier]

Try to bear up, flims. (See, I can avoid using the diminutive form.)

Yes to a pm; or no?

 

[Lock&Light]

Yes to a pm; or no?

For the very last time, flimsy. NO!

 

[pk]

But pk (and from previous posts this is your position) the Huntley stuff is not harmful - just wrong. If the Birmingham 6 had been guilty, I'd have been wrong and I've had said so. That's not so bad that I'd got it wrong (though I actually hadn't!)

Anyway, my point being, you can robustly criticise what they say on here - and especially DrJ, but ask for apologies for more important things.

The Huntley stuff is history now, but at the time it was fucking well out of order.

I don't want an apology, I just want to ensure nobody takes his shit seriously.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

just so I can get something straight in my head...

is there an allegation that non of the planes were actually real and that no passangers were actually killed?

serious moment here.


bear with me on this as it has a lot of relevance

The main idea is that the two planes that weren't targeted on the WTC got shot down, not hit the pentagon or crash when the passengers tried to retake the aircraft.

They were shot down so that a remotely piloted, smaller aircraft could target the pentagon. Why they decided to do this i'm not sure, it's probably for some "bloody shirt" time.

The only evidence that supports such a claim, as oposed to not supporting the offical line, is the slight damage to the pentagon, which doesn't look like it took as much damage as you'd expect, nor is there any sign of what happened to the engines.

 

[flimsier]

For the very last time, flimsy. NO!

Why? I'd give you a chance just to see what you were saying, and I genuinely believe that you'll post it accurately.

So I give you permission in advance to post my pm up on here.

L&L: I apologise.

Decent pm is ready to send.

 

[Pingu]

The main idea is that the two planes that weren't targeted on the WTC got shot down, not hit the pentagon or crash when the passengers tried to retake the aircraft.

They were shot down so that a remotely piloted, smaller aircraft could target the pentagon. Why they decided to do this i'm not sure, it's probably for some "bloody shirt" time.

The only evidence that supports such a claim, as oposed to not supporting the offical line, is the slight damage to the pentagon, which doesn't look like it took as much damage as you'd expect, nor is there any sign of what happened to the engines.

ta

reason I was asking is I actually know someone who knew someone on one of the flights. So if the allegation had been that the planes had been fabricated I was going to ask them if they minded me posting some details.

 

[pk]

The plane bounced on the Pentagon lawn just before impact, weakening it sufficiently enough so that the debris from the plane entered the building and was spread behind the reinforced concrete walls, as numerous eyewitnesses have stated, engine parts were found on the lawn, and checked out, but of course all evidence pertaining to the simple and most probable version of events are debunked by Dr Twattt and his co-conspiranoids in favour of Joe Vialls supporting anti-Semitic websites and their tall tales about switching planes and impressionists faking voices, and other frankly laughable bollocks that would be funnier were it not concerned with the deaths of thousands of people.

 

[pk]

ta

reason I was asking is I actually know someone who knew someone on one of the flights. So if the allegation had been that the planes had been fabricated I was going to ask them if they minded me posting some details.

Exellent!

If you could finally shut this fucking fool up from discussing 9/11 using evidence from someone who has done more than read a website set up by Area51-obsessed teenage dirtbags, I'd buy you beer for a year!

 

[Pingu]

Exellent!

If you could finally shut this fucking fool up from discussing 9/11 using evidence from someone who has done more than read a website set up by Area51-obsessed teenage dirtbags, I'd buy you beer for a year!

doubt it will stop the posts tbh

i have mentioned this on a few other threads about 9/11 and it has just dissapeared into the ether...

however I wil give her a call over the weekend and see if she is willing for me to post some details

 

[pk]

Don't upset her for the sake of Dr Jazzz.

He'd only challenge her, like "are you sure he's dead and not just hiding" type of thing.

Then demand proof.

I'm not surprised he's shirked from replying to you before though, Pingu.

Internet gossip and misinformation is entertaining but has more wrong with it than any government account of the events of 9/11 I've ever seen, which is what makes their claims even more of a joke - apparently our gullibility is in question, because we can't accept or believe David Icke's theories, over those of the hundreds of investigators and non-government associated experts, and eye witnesses and relatives of the deceased.

Dr Jazzz makes this site look like a conspiranoid supporting site - which will never be the case, thank fuck.

If anything - this site is ANTI-conspiranoid.

 

[Jazzz]

The plane bounced on the Pentagon lawn just before impact, weakening it sufficiently enough so that the debris from the plane entered the building and was spread behind the reinforced concrete walls, as numerous eyewitnesses have stated, engine parts were found on the lawn, and checked out, but of course all evidence pertaining to the simple and most probable version of events are debunked by Dr Twattt and his co-conspiranoids in favour of Joe Vialls supporting anti-Semitic websites and their tall tales about switching planes and impressionists faking voices, and other frankly laughable bollocks that would be funnier were it not concerned with the deaths of thousands of people.

God, you are so keen on the 'never ending stream of piss' - and ingratiating yourself with anyone that might join your ever-diminishing gang - that you haven't been paying attention to anything on these threads!

But it is nice to hear someone come once again up with the utterly discredited claim that 'flight 77 bounced on the lawn before impact'. We didn't think you could find this hilarity any more. But there's always one, isn't there?

the amazing pentalawn

 

[Loki]

But it is nice to hear someone come once again up with the utterly discredited claim that 'flight 77 bounced on the lawn before impact'. We didn't think you could find this hilarity any more. But there's always one, isn't there?

Didn't you once loudly proclaim that the above flight never existed (based on the ramblings of a fruitloop who, much like yourself, couldn't be bothered to check the facts)?

Only to be proved embarrasingly wrong. Again.

 

[Jazzz]

ta

reason I was asking is I actually know someone who knew someone on one of the flights. So if the allegation had been that the planes had been fabricated I was going to ask them if they minded me posting some details.

Many people lost loved ones that day for sure, pingu, and quite a few of them are suing George Bush & Co. , although you very well may not have heard about it. Ellen Mariani is one such widow - her husband was on Flight 175. I have met her lawyer Phil Berg - her last suit was railroaded but she is having a new one, together with William Rodriguez who was the last person out of the North Tower alive. Stanley Hilton is also representing another 14 or so families (totalling 600 people) and suing Bush.

http://www.911forthetruth.com/

 

[Jazzz]

There's a good article here on the collapses of the WTC, which I think is new

Why did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? - Morgan Reynolds

 

[Loki]

There's a good article here on the collapses of the WTC, which I think is new

Why did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse? - Morgan Reynolds

If anyone can be bothered to read that bilge off someone's homepage they're a better wo/man than me.

DrJazzz, did you not proclaim that flight 77 never existed? How do you reconcile that with what you just said above?

 

[editor]

Absolutely not. Planes took off and they had real passengers on board. And they surely died. How, is being questioned.

No, it's not. They died on the planes that crashed. Some rang up their loved ones from the planes. Some had very intimate conversations. None of those people have expressed the slightest doubt that they weren't talking to their loved ones or that they weren't on the planes.

And that's the simple hard facts of the matter and you haven't a single shred of proof to the contrary, only-evidence free fantasies from fruitloops, weirdos, charalatans and book-floggers.

 

[pk]

God, you are so keen on the 'never ending stream of piss' - and ingratiating yourself with anyone that might join your ever-diminishing gang

Oh please, who are these people I've been "ingratiating" with?

And what fucking gang?

When have I ever been in any "gang"?

You've been posting here long enough to know that's just bollocks, and I don't need any help in shoving your shit back to you.

But it is nice to hear someone come once again up with the utterly discredited claim that 'flight 77 bounced on the lawn before impact'. We didn't think you could find this hilarity any more. But there's always one, isn't there?

the amazing pentalawn

That link proves everything I have ever said about you.



I have proof though - you have Rense.

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/images/sozen.pentagon3.jpeg

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

I'd enjoy this, Dr Jazzz, if I didn't have to keep repeating evidence that has already blown your toy theories out of the window before, many times.

 

[Jazzz]

yet, that constitutes no proof that the flights crashed as we are led to believe. Indeed, some of the phone calls could have been completely genuine - yet the whole thing still a dastardly inside job.