fredfelt
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OK. I'm about to make some tea with soya milk. Do you put the milk in before the hot water or after?
Vegetarians! Why aren't you vegan?
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OK. I'm about to make some tea with soya milk. Do you put the milk in before the hot water or after?
mr steev
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Biddlybee
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unless you're making the tea in a teapot
Blagsta
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unless you're making the tea in a teapot
What kind of freak does that?
fredfelt
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With tea, I always put it in after and it's fine
Cheers. That was a luvrley cup of tea. No curdling.
Biddlybee
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What? Makes tea in a teapot? I do.
gentlegreen
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crustychick
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why is it bad to limit the damage you do though - does it have to be all or nothing? I only buy free-range, organic eggs, when I have the option to do so, and ocassionally eat eggs in things that I don't know where they have come from - I don't obsessively ask if noodles I'm eating at the restaurant are egg noodles and if so, are they ethically sourced, for example. I don't refuse a slice of cake that a friend has made for my birthday incase they buy Big Barn eggs from Tesco. In my opinion it is a balancing act, and one in which I believe that you should have to draw your own line rather than being bound by what a certain dietary-label dictates that you should/shouldn't do and then be criticised or judged on your decisions.
(same argument for beer by the way
)do you refuse cups of tea from friends who have unknown milk in their fridge?
Blagsta
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I use a teabag in a teapot
That's doubly weird!
Biddlybee
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No it's not
Blagsta
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fredfelt
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why is it bad to limit the damage you do though - does it have to be all or nothing? I only buy free-range, organic eggs, when I have the option to do so, and ocassionally eat eggs in things that I don't know where they have come from - I don't obsessively ask if noodles I'm eating at the restaurant are egg noodles and if so, are they ethically sourced, for example. I don't refuse a slice of cake that a friend has made for my birthday incase they buy Big Barn eggs from Tesco. In my opinion it is a balancing act, and one in which I believe that you should have to draw your own line rather than being bound by what a certain dietary-label dictates that you should/shouldn't do and then be criticised or judged on your decisions.
(same argument for beer by the way
do you refuse cups of tea from friends who have unknown milk in their fridge?
I'm not saying it has to be all or nothing. I was coming at the egg thing from a personal perspective. From my point of view a battery egg causes more suffering than a respectfully reared animal.
I agree with you, it's a balancing act. I always make a point about asking about eggs - because if you don't question the people selling you the eggs don't question either. I might be a little deluded but I think always asking can make a difference.
As my friends know I'm fussy most would always use free range eggs if a cake was made for me. I'd refuse home made cake if I knew it had batter eggs, if it was made for me I don't know what I'd do.
My principles are flexible enough to exclude beer from any of this type of analysis. Beer is beer and it will be drunk.
I agree with you thought - each to their own. There is no (actually little
) point in judging others as you can always take this argument down to base level and say that consuming anything more than what you need to keep you alive is frivolous.
gentlegreen
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oops wrong thread
gentlegreen
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i think you mean sole
crustychick
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My principles are flexible enough to exclude beer from any of this type of analysis. Beer is beer and it will be drunk.
i had a feeling this might be the case
mr steev
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fredfelt
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Of course if your a vegan your sole's are made out of recycled tyres
crustychick
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funnily enough although I sometimes eat dubious cake and noodles, I never buy leather.... but I do eat honey...
what a minefield
what a minefield
Beanburger
Deep Fried
Agreed.
Well that depends on your personal ethics, doesn't it? I don't prioritise veganism, but I can understand why it's an important moral choice for others, and I would never consider it obsessive or irrational.
fredfelt
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funnily enough although I sometimes eat dubious cake and noodles, I never buy leather.... but I do eat honey...
what a minefield
Oh Gosh, yes. What terrible dilemmas we middle class concerned citizens face. One barely knows what to do for the best anymore
Beanburger
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But on the bright side, it's incredibly easy to feel good about ourselves on the basis of consumer choices.Oh Gosh, yes. What terrible dilemmas we middle class concerned citizens face. One barely knows what to do for the best anymore
I know it's a matter of personal morality and personal choice, but it always seems a little....irrational...to fuss about eating vegetarian cheese, when the milk that has gone into that cheese has been from intensive dairy farming.
If it's just about not wanting to consume a part of an animal, then fair enough, but a teenie amount of rennet vs. the calves which have probably had to die to produce the milk....it doesn't make sense to me.
For me, it makes more sense to eat less meat and dairy and be more discerning about where it comes from. Perversely it's actually easier to do with meat than it is with dairy - ethically it almost makes more sense to eat meat and not dairy!
