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What sort of an impact could this have JTG?
It's kind of hard to judge cos obviously we have no idea how many mail ballots are en-route right now and what proportion of those are in battleground states. Friendly administrations have set up all kinds of mitigation measures to counteract USPS delays - drop boxes and the like - and I've seen some clear messaging in the last week not to risk the post this late on. You'd imagine that given the sheer weight of early voting these messages are cutting through and people are choosing to drop off in person or even show up on the day if they've not yet got them in the post.
A lot of studies show that More Dems are voting by mail but also that Dems are returning their ballots earlier and at a higher rate than Republicans so you'd assume that those Democratic voters are more switched on and organised with this stuff.
Millions of mail ballots haven't been returned yet but a substantial slice of those are in California where everyone's been sent one (so they're not all coming back obvs), the race is uncompetitive at the Presidential level and people have the option of returning the ballot in person today anyway.

So... I want to say not as great as perhaps has been feared? Maybe? I don't doubt we'll be hearing the F-word in relation to this (saw a video of undelivered post stacked up in a Miami-Dade mailroom a few days ago) but it's all to be seen. I still think that sheer weight of numbers is going to sweep away attempts at fucking with the vote like this
 
Good read on Trump sinking in the suburbs, losing House seats that were once unlosable and why it's put states like Georgia and Texas in play - follow the money and you'll see where the GOP have effectively surrendered in favour of more defendable ground:
 
JTG hope you realise you're not allowed to log off or sleep for the foreseeable, thanks.
Ha, I'm aiming for a nap this afternoon!
I do try to keep on the sunny side with this stuff, which obvs isn't in denial of the worst case scenarios. Trump has a chance (10% chances happen 10% of the time). But I just don't see much evidence that he's winning without an Olympian level of shenanigans - and we saw yesterday that courts aren't having his side playing silly buggers with binning the votes.
 
This is a long read. It's from n+1, and it's an interview with the Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager. They ran a very interesting series with him about the 2008 crash in 2010. Anyway underneath all the hedge fund bluster the guy makes two interesting predictions. The first is that Trump will lose an will exile himself to Saudi Arabia and try to muscle in on their Neom project. The second is that retail is dead, especially in the states.

That is sort of weirdly illuminating but Jesus these people are fucking awful.
 
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That's an increase of more than Clinton lost by in the first two, still 30,000 short in Michigan.
 
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That's an increase of more than Clinton lost by in the first two, still 30,000 short in Michigan.
Astonishing figures. Bear in mind, some of these young people will also be die hard Trumpists who are coming out because they don't believe in Covid but do believe in racism and pussy grabbing as well, though I'm fairly sure the majority are not.
 
crazy shit this, their postal service is broken and they all know it but still if your ballot is delivered too late it won't count?

When I asked both my American colleagues (separately) if they'd be able to vote, they both said they were but weren't expecting their votes to count because of being postal and arriving in time and all that. (They're both registered in very Democrat areas and are pretty left wing -- practically Communist by US standards I reckon -- so not exactly keen on Biden but...)
 
58.3million voted early last time, 42% of the total. We're on about 100m now. Distinctly less than the 5, 8 and 20 fold increases we see there.

C'mon killer b I thought you were being blindly optimistic!
 
Quick observation on enthusiasm. Here's Oregon's figures for returned ballots:


Oregon isn't competitive but it is an all-mail state in which the only in-person option is to drop off your mail ballot at a counting centre by 8pm on election day

So, registered Dems have a six point lead over registered Republicans. Now, lots of GOP supporters could be intending to drop off their ballots today but they're running out of time to do so. In a more competitive state with in-person voting I guess this may be different but even so
 
The more read about the US voting system, the more I like our Elections Canada.

This is what the US ballot looks like

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Our ballots are a bit of paper and you put an ex in the box for the candidate of your choice.



eta: sorry for the big picture - you can't see the punch marks on the card with the thumbnail size

What is up with the guy's eye?!?
 
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