US election 2020 thread

[Nylock]

Outline.com

outline.com

Odd article that. Think I've heard of Molly Ball before?

Centrist coalition of the professional-managerial class & business titans saving democracy?

The clickbait title means that the deep state lot will make hay with it?

This will add fuel to the fire for the trump extremists and their beliefs that there has been a continuing deep state conspiracy against their guy from day one. Regardless of the details in the article, it will be read by the right and loon right as a corporatist/anteefa/big gov/sec apparatus/deep state meta conspiracy which they'll weaponise and use as a recruitment tool to bring the wobblers back into the fold and to suck in even more fringe and mainline anti gov types.

I have a bad feeling about this...

 

[brogdale]

Early signs of fallout from Trump's attempt to subvert the will of the people in Georgia.

 

[brogdale]

The post-Trump Republican war moves a step closer...

Dozens of former Republican officials who view the party as unwilling to stand up to Donald Trump and his attempts to undermine US democracy are in talks to form a centre-right breakaway party, four people involved in the discussions have said.

The early stage discussions include former elected Republicans, former officials in the Republican administrations of Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, George W Bush and Trump, ex-Republican ambassadors and Republican strategists, the people involved told Reuters.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/donald-trump-impeachment-trial-what-you-need-to-know
More than 120 of them held a Zoom call last Friday to discuss the breakaway group, which would run on a platform of “principled conservatism”, including adherence to the constitution and the rule of law – ideas they say have been trashed by Trump.

The plan would be to run candidates in some races but also to endorse centre-right candidates in others, be they Republicans, independents or Democrats, the people involved say.

 

[butchersapron]

That paper sure loves encouraging parties to split don't it?

 

[Dom Traynor]

It's a nonsense headline 40% of the 140 low level former Republican functionaries and appointees plus former independent centrist presidential candidate Evan McMullin that the Guardian and other centrists have long wanted to see as the US Macron on a Zoom call said a new party might be the right way to go, however a faction might also be the right tactic...

 

[hitmouse]

Yeah, I could believe a split happening but I would have thought that it'd be way more likely to come from hardline Trumpist/Q-types leaving to set up their own Patriot Parties, rather than like the ghost of John McCain founding The Independent Group for Change UKSA?

 

[StoneRoad]

I would be quite happy to see a split (or two) in the Republican party block.
Less so, if the Democrats were to fracture ...

 

[two sheds]

Yeah, I could believe a split happening but I would have thought that it'd be way more likely to come from hardline Trumpist/Q-types leaving to set up their own Patriot Parties, rather than like the ghost of John McCain founding The Independent Group for Change UKSA?

No, I think the Trumpists are the mainstream Republicans now

 

[Tankus]

Trump and Guiliani have legaly parted their ways ,as they are both going to be defendants soon , and Trump has turned on his enabler in chief Moscow mitch

The entertainment just never stops

 

[spring-peeper]

Democratic lawmaker sues Trump for violating KKK Act over riot

Representative Bennie Thompson is the first to sue Trump for conspiracy to disrupt the US Congress under 1871’s KKK Act.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[petee]

"Late last month, after identifying an initial 21 state and local GOP officials at the rally — among them a QAnon conspiracy theorist, a self-described member of a far-right militia and a man who once declared that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” — HuffPost received emails from readers across the country identifying the additional 36 officials in this new tally"

Exclusive: 57 GOP State And Local Officials Were At The Capitol Insurrection

And a month after the riot, few of the Republican political figures have been held to account.

m.huffpost.com

 

[gosub]

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No, I think the Trumpists are the mainstream Republicans now

I would think a meaningful split is unlikely. Like here, the first past the post electoral system in the US only really allows for a two-party system.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I could see there being room for a third party for a while at least - a sort of madder, Trumpy version of UKIP. They wouldn't win much electorally but they'd allow Trump to keep himself in the limelight while rinsing them for all their cash so there might be an appeal to him to go down that route if he feels he's not getting what he wants from the Republicans.

 

[planetgeli]

Remember Richard Barnett? The white nationalist who put his feet on Pelosi's desk? I seem to remember him giving it all the big man along the lines of 'you'll never take me alive' or some such shit about having an arsenal of weapons.

Crying like a baby now.

'It's not fair!' Capitol suspect who put feet on Pelosi's desk has court outburst

Richard Barnett, charged over January attack, complains after judge rules he must remain in jail until next court date in May

www.theguardian.com

US Capitol defendant Richard Barnett -- man accused of putting feet on Pelosi desk - is screaming at attorneys and judge during his court hearing right now. Upset he's been locked up "for a whole month"... "it's not fair"

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Remember Richard Barnett? The white nationalist who put his feet on Pelosi's desk? I seem to remember him giving it all the big man along the lines of 'you'll never take me alive' or some such shit about having an arsenal of weapons.

Crying like a baby now.

'It's not fair!' Capitol suspect who put feet on Pelosi's desk has court outburst

Richard Barnett, charged over January attack, complains after judge rules he must remain in jail until next court date in May

www.theguardian.com

He thinks he's one of the good guys:

 

[planetgeli]

Oh look. All the big mouth cunts are backtracking now.

QAnon Shaman: 'I regret entering that building with every fibre of my body'

QAnon Shaman: 'I regret entering that building'

Jake Angeli spoke from jail about his role in the Capitol riots.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[existentialist]

Remember Richard Barnett? The white nationalist who put his feet on Pelosi's desk? I seem to remember him giving it all the big man along the lines of 'you'll never take me alive' or some such shit about having an arsenal of weapons.

Crying like a baby now.

'It's not fair!' Capitol suspect who put feet on Pelosi's desk has court outburst

Richard Barnett, charged over January attack, complains after judge rules he must remain in jail until next court date in May

www.theguardian.com

Entitlement.

 

[two sheds]

I'm sure that their sincere expressions of regret will weight heavily with the judges. I'm surprised they've not converted to christianity tbh.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh look. All the big mouth cunts are backtracking now.

QAnon Shaman: 'I regret entering that building with every fibre of my body'

QAnon Shaman: 'I regret entering that building'

Jake Angeli spoke from jail about his role in the Capitol riots.

www.bbc.co.uk

He looks much better with the hat on. He should wear it in court.

 

[petee]

QAnon Shaman: 'I regret entering that building with every fibre of my body'

well he should have left some fibers outside then.

 

[spring-peeper]

 

[moochedit]

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The repubs would also need to win 2 thirds of the senate for this fantasy to happen.

 

[rubbershoes]

No need. According to the latest conspiraloon nonsense, Trump's inauguration is going to be on 3rd April.

The 4th March inauguration they've been going on about since January was a false flag apparently

 

[existentialist]

No need. According to the latest conspiraloon nonsense, Trump's inauguration is going to be on 3rd April.

The 4th March inauguration they've been going on about since January was a false flag apparently

Some times, it gets so hard to tell the false flags from the real ones...

 

[rubbershoes]

Some times, it gets so hard to tell the false flags from the real ones...

It's almost as if they just make up new shit all the time when their "predictions" don't come about

 

[Yossarian]

No need. According to the latest conspiraloon nonsense, Trump's inauguration is going to be on 3rd April.

The 4th March inauguration they've been going on about since January was a false flag apparently

The 3rd April chatter is another false flag, the REAL Trump inauguration will definitely be on 1st April.

 

[spring-peeper]

Still with the election

Trump continues to insist that Pence should have 'gone back' after the Capitol riots to overturn the 2020 election results

Trump supporters waged a violent insurrection on January 6 under the false belief that Pence and Congress could invalidate election results.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Tankus]

Sidney Powell Argues Her Dominion Defamation Lawsuit Be Tossed Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Believe Her
Former Trump lawyer and conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell moved to dismiss a lawsuit filed against her by Dominion Voting Systems Monday, arguing her earlier claims that Dominion was involved in an orchestrated voter fraud effort were so outrageous that “reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact.”

Powell’s lawyers argued her claims that Dominion worked with Democrats to rig its voting machines to ensure a win for Joe Biden were clearly her own “opinions and legal theories” and not statements that the public would immediately believe.
According to the lawyers, Dominion’s descriptions of Powell’s statements as “wild accusations” and “outlandish claims” support the idea that a reasonable person would not automatically believe her

Her claims were made as she served on former President Donald Trump’s legal team, which was tasked with challenging the results of the 2020 election in courts across the country after he lost to Biden, all of which were thrown out.
Powell’s lawyers, in documents filed in Washington, D.C., pointed to previous court rulings that state political language “is often vituperative, abusive and inexact,” and that it is a “well recognized principle that political statements are inherently prone to exaggeration and hyperbole.”

Wait ,,,what ? The "kraken" was a work of fiction unleashed on the unthinking ...lol
and this is her defense .?

How on earth can she retain a licence to practice after this ?

let alone get a dose of porridge , if only for the fundraising grift of the back of it.

 

[Tankus]

kin hell

BUSTED: Trump's campaign was bleeding supporters' bank accounts dry with recurring payment scheme

On Saturday, The New York Times reported that thousands of supporters of former President Donald Trump were hoodwinked by a deceptive "recurring payment" option for the president's campaign fundraising system, that led them to give far more money than they thought they were giving."Facing a cash...

www.rawstory.com

"Facing a cash crunch and getting badly outspent by the Democrats, the campaign had begun last September to set up recurring donations by default for online donors, for every week until the election," reported Shane Goldmacher. "Contributors had to wade through a fine-print disclaimer and manually uncheck a box to opt out. As the election neared, the Trump team made that disclaimer increasingly opaque, an investigation by The New York Times showed. It introduced a second prechecked box, known internally as a "money bomb," that doubled a person's contribution. Eventually its solicitations featured lines of text in bold and capital letters that overwhelmed the opt-out language."

"It felt like it was a scam," said Russell Blatt, whose brother Stacy in hospice care was "opted in" to monthly payments after making what he thought was a one-time contribution to Trump, then was confused why his utility checks started bouncing. Victor Amelio, a 78-year-old retiree in California, donated $990 in September via the Republican portal WinRed, and before he knew it the "opt in" he had never checked debited $8,000 of his money to the Trump campaign. "Bandits!" he told The Times. "I can't afford to pay all that damn money."

If any of this money wasn't refunded, it may well have gone to benefit Trump financially. A previous report in February indicated that $2.8 million in money donated to the Trump campaign was funneled into the Trump Organization to settle debts. And many supporters still haven't even accepted Trump's loss, to the consternation of even his fellow Republicans.

he doesn't miss a trick