Urban v's the Commentariat

[DotCommunist]

god save our queen elle

 

[emanymton]

True, but these writers seem to encounter nameless individuals who say exactly the right or wrong thing for their articles all the time. Johann Hari was never done running into people who his readers would either love or hate and would make Hari's point with a quote that was perfect, even if it didn't reflect how people actually speak.

Not naming any names, but I once had an academic I knew ring up me up to 'interview' me for some research he was doing. Started of by saying 'what I want to say you said is this ...'

Didn't have a problem with it it was pretty much what I would have said anyway, and he got the exact wording he wanted.

 

[equationgirl]

Not naming any names, but I once had an academic I knew ring up me up to 'interview' me for some research he was doing. Started of by saying 'what I want to say you said is this ...'

Didn't have a problem with it it was pretty much what I would have said anyway, and he got the exact wording he wanted.

Good to hear academic research ethics are still alive and well.

 

[emanymton]

Good to hear academic research ethics are still alive and well.

Well I was a relevant person to interview, he was writing about young people involved in protest movements.

And it wasn't anything I didn't think, he just got it done quickly and with exactly the result he wanted. Obviously he would have conducted lots of proper research and interviews as well.

 

[Belushi]

I was quoted in the Guardian once and I came across as a lot more coherent than what I'd actually said

 

[killer b]

I was quoted in the Guardian once and I came across as a lot more coherent than what I'd actually said

this is ok isn't it? when I did work experience at a local newspaper, one of the jobs I had to do was re-write readers letters to make them legible. I think as long as you aren't changing the meaning of what's been said there's no problem with cleaning quotes up.

 

[emanymton]

this is ok isn't it? when I did work experience at a local newspaper, one of the jobs I had to do was re-write readers letters to make them legible. I think as long as you aren't changing the meaning of what's been said there's no problem with cleaning quotes up.

It can be a pretty fine line though.

 

[Belushi]

this is ok isn't it? when I did work experience at a local newspaper, one of the jobs I had to do was re-write readers letters to make them legible. I think as long as you aren't changing the meaning of what's been said there's no problem with cleaning quotes up.

Yes totally, he got what I was trying to say as I quickly shut down urban wondering wtf a Guardian journalist was doing at my desk

 

[butchersapron]

Cracker here:

The Pope’s beliefs about abortion will become relevant the day the Pope becomes pregnant

Which contains the clain that the popes views are relevant because they are damaging in the real world.

What the pope says and does influences policy in Catholic countries. One of those countries is Spain, where lawmakers are voting on a plan to allow abortion only in the most extreme cases – where a pregnancy is the result of rape, or is likely to cause death or serious injury. In any other circumstances, Spanish women will be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term and go through the pain and physical risk of childbirth. Similar struggles are going on in Ireland, the United States and everywhere that right-wing politicians are trying to rally support by trampling on women’s rights.

 

[butchersapron]

We wanted to believe that this Pope was different. In these anxious times, it hasn’t just been Catholics who got overexcited by the idea of a spiritual leader who could inspire the world to be better

You and articul8. And yeah, it was, you mugs.

 

[frogwoman]

You and articul8. And yeah, it was, you mugs.

I thought she said she was Jewish

 

[MellySingsDoom]

I thought she said she was Jewish

According to her Wikipedia entry, it says this:

Penny was born in London and grew up in Brighton.[2][3] She is of Irish, Jewish, and Maltese descent.

 

[butchersapron]

She has - don't know whether that means just bog standard cultural or what (i suspect it extends to identity claiming). Not sure what that's got to do with her piece though.

 

[frogwoman]

She has - don't know whether that means just bog standard cultural or what (i suspect it extends to identity claiming). Not sure what that's got to do with her piece though.

Ah fair enough - I thought you said she was catholic there, sorry misread.

 

[rekil]

If she wasn't so evidently ignorant of the goings on in Argentina's dictatorship, maybe she might've mentioned something about about the babystealing and assorted other cruelties women were subjected to while Mr.Bergoglio was head of the jesuits there.

In other news, bears – despite a massive global rebranding effort – still shit in the woods.

Horrible cliche. So lazy. English lit degree from Oxford and all.

For almost a year, liberals all over the world allowed themselves to believe that this Pope was different

Has she strayed from her autonomist roots and gone back to to identifying as a liberal once more here? Or just tut-tutting.

I thought she said she was Jewish

I had LP do a priv off with Camila Vallejo and it's official; she is officially more oppressed as long her claim to have jewish heritage is considered to be valid. Otherwise they're tied. Step back and check your privilege Cami, you would've won if you hadn't had that baby, or got elected.

 

[benedict]

Has she strayed from her autonomist roots and gone back to to identifying as a liberal once more here? Or just tut-tutting.

Trying to appeal to the NYC/SF arty radical hipster market niche probably. Also accounts for her frequent visits to the United States. I'd put money on her moving there at some point.

 

[Limerick Red]

Ah fair enough - I thought you said she was catholic there, sorry misread.

Nah, but she did like to draw on stigmata to belittle and bully catholic schoolmates.

 

[frogwoman]

Nah, but she did like to draw on stigmata to belittle and bully catholic schoolmates.

That's not on.

 

[J Ed]

I wonder if she's gonna brag about drawing pics of Mohammed to bully Muslim kids?

 

[butchersapron]

That's not on.

Eh? She did.

I also once drew stigmata on my hands and face in felt-tip to freak-out my Catholic classmates - face it, I’m essentially perfect for the job.

 

[butchersapron]

There's nothing wrong with doing that btw.

 

[DotCommunist]

which of the stigmata is on face? side feet and hands shirly

 

[Limerick Red]

How do you draw stigmata on your face?

 

[frogwoman]

Eh? She did.

No I meant if she was doing it to bully them.

 

[Limerick Red]

Im just imagining Penny in her ignorence drawing on a bindi, chasing Jahovas witness's around the class saying "look at me Im padre pio"

 

[butchersapron]

I'm laughing more at the suggestion that there were 'catholic classmates' crossing themselves going holy mary mother of god noooo! Little bit racist that laurie.

 

[DotCommunist]

How do you draw stigmata on your face?

marks from the crown of thorns maybe? certainly not the ordinary stigma

 

[butchersapron]

No I meant if she was doing it to bully them.

She a) wasn't doing it all - like her pretending to wear a burqa for a week thing and b) has written about being the bullied and c) holy mary mother of god nooooo!

 

[J Ed]

This article coming in the wake of her no sex segregation happens at Muslim events and if you think there is any you're racist article is a bit rich.

 

[MAD-T-REX]

Im just imagining Penny in her ignorence drawing on a bindi, chasing Jahovas witness's around the class saying "look at me Im padre pio"

I'm thinking it was more of a Kay Burley style 'What's Joe Biden got on his forehead? Did he fall over?' moment.