Urban v's the Commentariat
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Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
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Starry Wisdom
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Starry Wisdom
i was thinking more of nightsoil
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Have we had ‘#smugsexual’ yet? It seems to be a thing which is causing yet more fractures and realignments and fallings-out and refriending amongst the intersectional of the earth. I think Helen Lewis might be something to do with it, and/or the Mark Fisher ‘Vampire Castles’ thing.
Certainly Sam Ambreen and Mediocre Dave (obliquely of this parish) seem most unamused.
Certainly Sam Ambreen and Mediocre Dave (obliquely of this parish) seem most unamused.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
what does it mean> that you fuck Toby Jugs, Steins etc?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I'm not wholly confident of answering that, but I think it's perceived as something a sneery epithet thrown out in the manner of ‘slut shaming’.
Who's been hurling it at whom and for why is something I have no intention of investigating, certainly not at 1am when I'm off to bed. But it has been bobbing up and down along my timeline tonight like a poorly-weighted corpse in the canal.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
If the media is a huge toilet bowl then the commentariat are the vile unflushables residing therein.
captainmission
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Someone on my face book posted it up. It relates to this guff- http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/smugsexual-and-the-closet-two-faces-of-feminist-biphobia/
Some one said they didn't like faux lesbians. Then some one said that's bi phobic. But since its intersectional they managed to get several thousand words out of it, claiming the other was priviledged whilst they were marganilised, that it deeply violated the core of their personal being and made them trigger all over the floor.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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wobbly
oh gawds, i tried to read that shit. someone help me
#twitterspat #usualsuspects #wasteofspace
as far as I can tell, the whole shebang is about which intersectional feminists can spend more time tripping over themselves to self abase, while completely ignoring the hypocracy of claiming to be more self abasing than though so they actually can appropriate the words and stories of others to further their career
#twitterspat #usualsuspects #wasteofspace
as far as I can tell, the whole shebang is about which intersectional feminists can spend more time tripping over themselves to self abase, while completely ignoring the hypocracy of claiming to be more self abasing than though so they actually can appropriate the words and stories of others to further their career
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
seventh bullet
sovietwave
I didn't get past the title.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Gay, bi, lesbian, trans, queer, inter and asexual???
(I'm fucked if I'm gonna click on the article just to find out)
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
At risk of appearing to *ahem* mansplain, is ‘biphobia’ really the most pressing issue facing women at the moment? More than domestic abuse, pay inequality, reduced opportunities, bearing the weight of family responsibilities, being disproportionately criminalised for being poor, etc?
captainmission
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No but it does affect bi people, and bisexuals a lot of shit from the gay and lesbian community. Being dismissed a phase, or fake gays or lesbians or being traitors to the cause. Its a debate that been had for decades. It's just in the diseased discourse of intersectionalism it can only had in terms oppresser/oppressed binaries, taking ever statement as a personal attack, engaging in ritual humiliation of calling out and with no hope of reconiliation.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
im bisexual. i have experienced it, its a problem. however i see biphobia as like partially a product of the sort of gay "nationalism" that has come out of the depoliticisation etc of gay pride struggles and seeing gay people as like a separate "nation" (ie gay pride flags, the concept of gay culture being completely separate from straight culture etc) something i suspect some intresectionalists would be happy to promote.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
i've been meaning to write something about gay pride and nationalism for ages but i'd probably be killed(over the internet that is)
You want Judith Butler on Homonationalism
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's not a single text as such, more her having a long term ongoing pop at simple gay priders and so on. And to be honest, the word is better then the critique.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
yes. because all those things are basically the same and have the same interests and needs and are one big happy family.
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wobbly
not sure.
most of the open biphobia I see regularly is coming from the same transphobic radfem mouthpieces as those that claim that MtF transition is a deliberate attempt by men to invade women only space.
Really? I don't know enough of them thank god, I think it comes from all sorts of sources by far the main one being from people who are also homophobic.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Heard some of this shit in the late eighties from radical feminists then.
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