Urban v's the Commentariat

[rekil]

You watched that far?

That is called #activism. What do you do?

Spoiler

I gave the Abbott bit about 30 secs then clicked at random.

 

[treelover]

Just in case anyone needs reminding of Rod Liddle's proclivities:

just saw this, wow!, how has he got away with it.

 

[treelover]

Words fail me.

John Mc is getting to close to the TWT lot, imo.

 

[killer b]

John Mc is getting to close to the TWT lot, imo.

I've just been looking through their programme for this year and it looks pretty good tbh. These are mostly the questions Labour should be attempting to answer & deal with - what's your issue with them?

 

[SpackleFrog]

I've just been looking through their programme for this year and it looks pretty good tbh. These are mostly the questions Labour should be attempting to answer & deal with - what's your issue with them?

I was about to say that looks a lot better than last year, but they're still doing a session on 'Acid Corbynism'.

 

[killer b]

No point slagging that off to me, I like the Acid Corbynism stuff, shit name aside.

 

[killer b]

(there's a thread about it here: Acid Communism ?)

 

[SpackleFrog]

(there's a thread about it here: Acid Communism ?)

I suppose I should read the thread but bleurgh

 

[brogdale]

A rave from the grave...

 

[equationgirl]

A rave from the grave...

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One would think a political activist such as herself would have been tweeting and writing prolifically on recent events rather than Halloween costumes...

 

[Idris2002]

One would think a political activist such as herself would have been tweeting and writing prolifically on recent events rather than Halloween costumes...

Didn't she go off to write scripts for Hollywood?

 

[equationgirl]

Didn't she go off to write scripts for Hollywood?

No idea. Last I knew she was doing some masters in the US.

 

[killer b]

She doesn't need to hawk her writing to the papers anymore, her readers pay her direct (3.5k per month!). A blessing for everyone.

Laurie Penny is creating journalism, features and stories | Patreon

 

[rekil]

We Can Be Heroes: How the Nerds Are Reinventing Pop Culture

Here's what mugs get for their patreon cash. A long brag about being a successful screenwriter from Oxford 'wizarding school'.

Some of us were working-class, most of us were queer, almost all of us were twitchy weirdos emerging from the special neurosis of lonely intelligent children everywhere, namely that we thought far too much and far too little of ourselves at the same time.

I publish a short novel, Everything Belongs to the Future, which is barely disguised fan fiction about me and my friends, set in a far-future Oxford, with a group of queer anarchists in a filthy flatshare trying to make art in a world that has no space for them.

Of the original members of our Oxford Fan Fiction and Folklore society, by the way, two are now published authors, one is a cultural critic, and one is a major editor at a science fiction/fantasy publishing house.

Milo has been cast aside for now.

A fringe far-right rally at the Republican National Convention. I'm here as a reporter, and I hold up my recorder as the far-right nanocelebrity on the podium segues seamlessly from a rant about the threat of Islam to a rant about the new Ghostbusters reboot. “Terrible feminist flop!” Milo Yiannopoulos yells.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Amazing that a load of kids ('some working class' - one of them went to state school) in oxford university have gone on to have succesfull careers

 

[rekil]

The Meritocracy Stands.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I'm all wound up by some meaningless shit laurie penny has chatted now, this is why the internet is bad

 

[Proper Tidy]

Such a fucking knob tho

 

[butchersapron]

That patreon really is just a fund my holiday twats thing isn't it?

What's like to be patronised. Like a 16th century duke's servant, or more like a fund my party twats leninist subs style feeling?

 

[Proper Tidy]

I remember getting into blogging in mid-ish 00s (I'm embarrassed thinking about it) and that pennyred blog being one of the darlings of the 'left blogosphere' (fucks sake) and me wondering wtf and here we are fifteen years later with her leveraging 50k a year out of dickheads for pumping out the same teenage angst outsider posh bollocks. It is almost admirable really, in the same way as that horrible fella who faked the lottery ticket

 

[chilango]

It's like painting cats for moneyed spinsters.

 

[butchersapron]

So her new thing is that elite dominance is ok - it's deserved right? She's consistent on this at least - here's her in 2013 talking at the oxford union: Who are we? People who are ambitious. People who expect to be in the top 10 to 1% of global society, either now or in a few years.

And as if by some magic - it happened!

 

[killer b]

I dont have any particular problem with paying to read someone's writing, but the patreon model has you paying way more for far less than you would under other models- ie, a monthly subscription to a magazine or whatever.

The minimum to 'unlock' most patreon's content is usually about £3 - for that you might as well buy a paper magazine with lots of writers - and I'm sure I'm not the only person making that calculation. So as a way of funding individual writers, I cant see it working for anyone other than grifters like Penny.

 

[rekil]

Fillum pitch: A chilling dystopia where Oxford has never existed.

 

[butchersapron]

Has to be a a celeb-grifter though. Preferably one who publishes on the harm celeb culture is doing to society.

 

[binka]

$2 is the minimum to get her articles, she has 629 subscribers making the average $5.54 per month. Would expect it roughly follows the Pareto principle where 80% contribute 20% of the money and 20% contribute 80% - bit precarious with such a small subscriber base if she loses a few of her $100 or $250 subscribers she could be in trouble. I'm sure she manages to keep it fresh and interesting for them all though

All joking aside we're only all jealous. Not that I could have been Laurie Penny but I definitely could have been PewDiePie

 

[killer b]

I'm not jealous, I'm grateful that Penny has found the means to remove herself from public life.

 

[binka]

I'm not jealous, I'm grateful that Penny has found the means to remove herself from public life.

You wouldn't want to make three grand a month for writing a load of old toss?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

All I'm thinking is that I might just start a patreon. Three and a half grand a month you say?

 

[killer b]

It isn't actually (just) a load of old toss is it though - its writing that's carefully engineered to please her patrons. I wouldn't be interested in making a living on that kind of writing, no.