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phildwyer said:
Monica Lewinsky?
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Sure thing.

I can't believe they left Reg Varney off that list at the bottom.:facepalm:

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The Pale King said:
Between the (Twitter) Wars

New Statesman blogger 'Glosswitch' unfurls 'misogofeminism'.

http://glosswatch.com/2014/01/27/scolds-bridle/

...portmanteau or neologism? Or both?
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i read that and i'm no clearer on what position she is advocating or what she actually wants to happen. is she calling people out for calling people out? i think what she's trying to say is that whenever you criticise another self-identified feminist then you're actually a woman hater. which she does through the medium of criticism of feminists. is that what is happening here?
 
el-ahrairah said:
i read that and i'm no clearer on what position she is advocating or what she actually wants to happen. is she calling people out for calling people out? i think what she's trying to say is that whenever you criticise another self-identified feminist then you're actually a woman hater. which she does through the medium of criticism of feminists. is that what is happening here?
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I was going to find a picture of a person standing in front of a bunch of mirrors for an infinity effect, and then add a fake-Mao maxim on self-reflection. But then I didn't, because I couldn't be arsed, and it's not worth it. Feel free to offer half-likes in recognition for the thought if not the actual effort.
 
el-ahrairah said:
i read that and i'm no clearer on what position she is advocating or what she actually wants to happen. is she calling people out for calling people out? i think what she's trying to say is that whenever you criticise another self-identified feminist then you're actually a woman hater. which she does through the medium of criticism of feminists. is that what is happening here?
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It's pompous, self-aggrandizing bullshit. And surprisingly coy about who it is meant to be calling out (dark mutterings of skimming through 'a number of twitter timelines, but she won't dish). Privilege is also a 'shifting, intersecting thing' - which means nothing that I can figure out.
I found this bit almost touching:

"It’s feminists who have the nerve to put honesty before radical posturing who are unsettling. Those who genuinely claim space, which is then written off as “privilege” (because what is a woman doing there?). Such women might actually make a difference. So into the bridle they go"

...I do find her unsettling, but not for the reasons she wants me to. I must bow before her for 'genuinely claiming space' in the New Statesman bloggers stable though. No bridles in there eh? :D
 
The Pale King said:
It's pompous, self-aggrandizing bullshit. And surprisingly coy about who it is meant to be calling out (dark mutterings of skimming through 'a number of twitter timelines, but she won't dish). Privilege is also a 'shifting, intersecting thing' - which means nothing that I can figure out.
I found this bit almost touching:

"It’s feminists who have the nerve to put honesty before radical posturing who are unsettling. Those who genuinely claim space, which is then written off as “privilege” (because what is a woman doing there?). Such women might actually make a difference. So into the bridle they go"

...I do find her unsettling, but not for the reasons she wants me to. I must bow before her for 'genuinely claiming space' in the New Statesman bloggers stable though. No bridles in there eh? :D
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Guff like that just makes me go 'what private school did this one go to then?'

She's a bit of a royalist apparently, with mandatory bit of grating self-deprecation.

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co-op said:
There are a lot of people who are right on the borderline of mentally ill in modern normal society, why wouldn't there be? Extreme individualism is a state of great insecurity and constant competition and comparison. What we know about climate change and the coming chaos alone is enough to mean that we live in a culture which is genuinely suicidal, let alone all the other abuses and violence that we have to learn to condone or ignore. To be "sane" in modernity is to be able to successfully ignore the most important things that are happening. The best way to do that is to just join in the mainstream as best you can. But if you're unable to do that because you are alienated from the mainstream for whatever reason - your personal need to be "different" or important in some way, probably a consequence of your elite upbringing, then a retreat into obsessive, narcissistic, endlessly self-referring halls of mirrors is as good a way as any. There are loads of people like this obsessing about their facebook likes or the neighbours car or whatever, modernity is mass-producing them, the Sam Ambreens are just the 'political' version.

It's ironic than in her Grand Vision of freedom from kyriarchy and patriarchy and all the rest of it, she's reduced herself to obsessing over the the tiniest minutiae of correctitude and propriety and thus merely re-enacting an old stereotype of obsessively privatised female behaviour, it's like obsessing over shoes and ribbons. Or diet etc etc.



Reminds me of the conspiraloon industry. If I was going to make sure that any weirdness about - say 9/11 - was never going to get taken seriously, I'd get straight on to setting up a Truth Industry. Once it's up and running there is enough genuine paranoia, fear and obsession out there to keep the whole thing alive all on its own - and anyone with a grip on reality will be instantly alienated.
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*slow clap*

You boys sure have me sussed.
 
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