existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Do let us know when the defenestration starts...
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There's a report on the Ukrainian BBC site that seems to suggest that there may be more to it than the 'personality clash' theory. Interesting that the finger is being pointed at Maryana Bezugla for bad jacketing Zaluzhuy on social media. Bezugla resigned last month from the Servant of the People Party citing her loyalty to Zelensky against those in the party "who stick a knife in the back,". Last year she tried to move an amendment that would have allowed commanders to kill military personnel in a combat situation if they refused to follow orders.
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www.bbc.com
and also suggests an explanation for what seems to be a U-turn on Zaluzhuy's dismissal
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
An excellent piece of whataboutery
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There is an obvious contrast in Zaluzhny's appraisal ( below) of where Ukraine is at and Zelensky's more of the same approach, which does seem to inform BBC Ukraines view that "Zaluzhny and Zelenskyi have a different vision of what phase the war has entered and how it should develop further."
One bit that does stand out is the acceptance that the sanctions have failed , the weakness of Ukraine's state capacity and that national cohesion is suffering , all of which goes completely against the narrative from both the Ukraine government and it partners.
One bit that does stand out is the acceptance that the sanctions have failed , the weakness of Ukraine's state capacity and that national cohesion is suffering , all of which goes completely against the narrative from both the Ukraine government and it partners.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
The T-shirts will be just fine. They'll just be retro.
ska invita
back on the other side
EU agrees €50bn package for Ukraine as Viktor Orbán bows to pressure
Hungarian prime minister, who had vowed to block the funding, relented after series of 11th-hour meetings
No sign of the US money though
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You bought a load of those and got burned?
some good has come of this madness after all
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
This will be welcomed by Ukraine however it will only , and temporarily, go towards plugging a hole in the national budget . Having lost their productive capacity in the east , Ukraine needs to find an increase in revenue on a more permanent scale hence Zelensky’s plea to those who have fled , or not returned from studying overseas, to come back and pay taxes with some suggestion that military service might be avoided if taxes are paid .EU agrees €50bn package for Ukraine as Viktor Orbán bows to pressure
Hungarian prime minister, who had vowed to block the funding, relented after series of 11th-hour meetingswww.theguardian.com
No sign of the US money though
The EU also has problems in meeting its targets for ammunition for Ukraine and their is a suggestion that they may have to purchase from outside the EU.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Zelenskiy confirms plan to replace commander of armed forces as part of ‘reset’
Ukrainian president tells Rai News he wants to make major changes in leadership, including firing Valerii Zaluzhnyi
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Zelenskiy confirms plan to replace commander of armed forces as part of ‘reset’
Ukrainian president tells Rai News he wants to make major changes in leadership, including firing Valerii Zaluzhnyi
Hard to say whether he is just talking about a change or consistency of attitude or a radical restructure. It would be interesting to see what vision is driving such a proposed cull
(Full interview below)
View attachment ssstwitter.com_1707129537393.mp4
ska invita
back on the other side
Interesting response to a looming electionZelenskiy confirms plan to replace commander of armed forces as part of ‘reset’
Ukrainian president tells Rai News he wants to make major changes in leadership, including firing Valerii Zaluzhnyi
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Do you think there are looming elections in Ukraine or are you referring to the American ones?
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Yeah, I don't think it's looming.
Ukraine war: Fierce row erupts over 2024 election
Some right-wing US politicians want Ukraine to vote as scheduled next year. Ukrainians don't.
www.bbc.co.uk
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
"cull". Because Zelenskyy is Stalin.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He doesn't have the great dictator's wit or bonhomie"cull". Because Zelenskyy is Stalin.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Stalin was Georgian and tbf wasn’t the first and won’t be the last leader of a state to propose a whole scale clearout of elected officials or unelected officials.
My main question is what is he hoping to achieve by this ‘reset’ that can only be achieved by whole scale and across the board changes .
My main question is what is he hoping to achieve by this ‘reset’ that can only be achieved by whole scale and across the board changes .
mojo pixy
interesting times
Or excellent moustache
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Here’s one candidate for the cull
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Sweden to drop inquiry into Nord Stream pipeline explosions
Investigators previously found blasts that damaged undersea pipelines in 2022 were an act of sabotage
Sweden shows its toothless gums
nogojones
spelling is overrated
I don't think I did way back, but go on. I will. What they gonna do about it?
teqniq
DisMembered
No I do not know for sure one way or another who actually destroyed it and the article does not claim to know for sure either. But there is plenty of evidence of Russia destroying lots of other things particularly in Kherson. She has plenty more videos and photos of ongoing destruction:
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Deputy Mayor assassinated in Ukraine
www.pravda.com.ua
Deputy mayor of Nikopol shot dead in his car â photo
An unidentified person opened fire at the car of Vitalii Zhuravlov, the deputy mayor and the deputy head of the Nikopol city council, in the city of Nikopol, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
www.pravda.com.ua
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
So Zaluzhny finally given the old heave ho.
Syrski in to replace.
Happy families on official picture but mixed reactions from observers. I remember reading about Syrski andthe Battle for Kyiv and apparently he was very efficient but just seen some comments that he is an uber disciplinarian.
I guess Zaluzhny had to carry the can for the "disappointing" counter offensive. Despite various successes there was no headline breakthrough which was needed for the "optics" if nothing else.
Syrski in to replace.
Happy families on official picture but mixed reactions from observers. I remember reading about Syrski and
I guess Zaluzhny had to carry the can for the "disappointing" counter offensive. Despite various successes there was no headline breakthrough which was needed for the "optics" if nothing else.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Syrski is rumoured not to be popular with sections of the AFU and not because he is Russian.
Btw what's happened to Sarah Ashton-Cirillo ?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
No idea, never paid a lot of attention to her.
editor
hiraethified
The pipeline fades into insignificance considering the deaths, the injuries and the destruction of homes, hospitals and schools and untold suffering of civilians that Russia has inflicted on its neighbour.
I hope those responsible are held accountable for their crimes against humanity,
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
From whats been bandied about Zaluzhny is also a bit to close to the far right elements
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