A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Nope, I'm making an easy and cheap schoolboy level gag.
It should be easy for someone with your intellect to tell the difference,
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25
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It should be easy for someone with your intellect to tell the difference,
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
My schoolboy level gag wasn't aimed at you to be fair, I'm not sure that you have tried to put yourself in a position of 'judgement' over the the Ukrainian people. Certainly I haven't seen you do it.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's so hard to tell when all your posts now when questioned turn out to be at best juvenile.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Looking at the published pay bands I don't think he's getting six figures. Public sector pay has massively lagged recently,
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Rather more nuanced than that - immediately post-war there was a big push to clear minefields (Argentine - who refused/where unable, to provide maps/locations of said minefields) and unexploded munitions from the areas around the population centres of Stanley, Darwin-Goose Green, Pebble Island and Fox Bay.
However, the UK then (84/5?)took the view that the Falklands population density meant that it could effectively tape off large areas (the beaches around Stanley being a prime example) and leave them uncleared because there was such huge amounts of land and beaches available that had been cleared.
The driver for that was simply that UK, both NGO and Mil, had a finite amount of de-mining capability, and that it was better that that capacity was used where it really mattered - Southern Africa, and then Bosnia and Kosovo - than to use it clear munitions from a beach on West Falkland that received a human visitor about once every 70 years.
Munitions clearance, apart from emergency stuff, didn't happen in the Falklands between about 1985 and well into the 2000's, simply because it wasn't necessary in order for the people who lived there to able to live safe lives.
Amusingly, for those who believe in the UN, the UK only started again because the UN (and hysterically, I think it was Argentina that made the complaint) honked off about the UK not meeting it's commitments to demine it's territory, so the UK reduced its efforts in places where it mattered to people, and started clearing up the Falklands instead.
Yorke bay is very nice, but....
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
No, only about 90-95%. This figure has been fairly constant since I started on here. I do make the occasional pertinent and intelligent post. and some of my threads have been really interesting. But it's not really my thing on here . If you think differently it's probably because you are nostalgically imagining a past golden age when more of my posts were intelligent and pertinent that never really existed.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Anything intelligent and pertinent likely the product of random banging away
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
(((sheep)))
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I'm sure there's a joke there, but I can't imagine what it might be....
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Have Ukraine been mapping out their use of cluster bombs in East Ukraine since 2014 and the ones that Turkey supplied last year ?This article on clearing cluster munitions makes an interesting read.
BiB is important in relation to Ukraine's planned use, as they will be able to map the areas where they use them, as the UK did in the Falklands. Their biggest problem is going to be clearing the ones that Russia has used in Ukraine, because Ukraine is not going to have as accurate information on where they have been used, plus the dud rate is claimed to be over 30% compared to about 2.5% for the ones the US are supplying, so a much more time consuming job.
Ukraine is going to be using the US supplied ones on the battlefields, these will be no-go areas for some years after the war, because of the sheer amount of cluster munitions already used, and thousands upon thousands of landmines, that need clearing. I am unconvinced a few more cluster munitions are going to play a massive role in the overall clear-up operation.
Whilst I am far from cheering on more cluster munitions being used, they don't seem likely to change the danger level on the actual ground by much, and if they are effective in breaking the Russian lines, and bringing forward the likely end to this bloody war, they will probably save a lot more lives, than they will take during the clearance years.
Clearing Cluster Munition Remnants 2020 - World
Analysis in English on World and 28 other countries about Gender, Mine Action, Epidemic and more; published on 4 Nov 2020 by HALO, MAG and 2count other organizationsreliefweb.int
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
You know that was a fake, just a piss take, don't you?
I know it's easy to scroll through stuff only half paying attention, but that wasn't real.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I hate to drag this off all the rigorous debate on the current topic but I have just started reading this after having it recommended to me, and it's a good read (so far) that covers some of the feelings and actions of people on the ground in the early days of the invasion and resistance.
"In fact, almost all of Voznesensk’s citizens worked against the invaders. Old ladies filled sandbags; men gathered hunting rifles and made molotov cocktails. These were useless against a tank, they acknowledged, but a symbol of defiance nonetheless. The town, led by a 32-year-old mayor, organised itself. The community was plucky and ready to improvise in dark times, like Ukrainian society as a whole."
www.theguardian.com
"In fact, almost all of Voznesensk’s citizens worked against the invaders. Old ladies filled sandbags; men gathered hunting rifles and made molotov cocktails. These were useless against a tank, they acknowledged, but a symbol of defiance nonetheless. The town, led by a 32-year-old mayor, organised itself. The community was plucky and ready to improvise in dark times, like Ukrainian society as a whole."
A Small, Stubborn Town by Andrew Harding – the war in Ukraine in skilful miniature
Spanning just a few dramatic days, the foreign reporter’s riveting account of the battle for Voznesensk highlights the weaknesses of Putin’s invasion and the courage of Ukrainians
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I do thanks and did at the time , hence when I quoted it previously I put it in inverted commas.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
What’s your definition of winning?
Cid
Proper break this time
Sorry, you genuinely think we'll see NATO troops marching into Russia?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You can’t win a fight. The costs are always potentially shit.
The Ukrainian forces are unlikely to punch through the Russian defences. Dream on about a coup or Putins ill health or Russian ammunition deficits.
The Ukrainians are throwing old men at the fight now. Ffs. Fuck their leadership.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Hilariously you have repeatedly put yourself in a position of judgement over half the world.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Putin scum etc for mentioning it.
editor
hiraethified
No, fuck Russia for starting this, fuck Russia for murdering and raping civilians, fuck Russia for destroying hospitals, schools, homes and businesses and fuck Russia for their illegal occupation and endless list of war crimes.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well if your definition of winning is to take Moscow and fly the flag over the Kremlin, you’re probably right. But they’re more likely to consider kicking Russia out of Ukraine, and ultimately joining NATO to make sure this doesn’t happen again, a win. And that’s achievable.
Cluster bombs is fucking horrendous and an unpleasant move by the US. Just imagine the outrage if one side were arming up with nukes, FFS.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Pleased to see that this Sunday morning brought a brief skirmish of ‘I’m more pro Ukraine than you ‘ posts.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Dunno, but at the risk of being accused of armchair Generalism, I’d have thought that if you’re dropping bombs in your own country, some of which are certain to remain unexploded, keeping records of where you drop them would be covered in military planning 101.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I read a short piece on the high level of civil activity and engagement ( as high as 80%) amongst w/class communities in some parts of Ukraine . Cant remember who wrote it unfortunately.I hate to drag this off all the rigorous debate on the current topic but I have just started reading this after having it recommended to me, and it's a good read (so far) that covers some of the feelings and actions of people on the ground in the early days of the invasion and resistance.
"In fact, almost all of Voznesensk’s citizens worked against the invaders. Old ladies filled sandbags; men gathered hunting rifles and made molotov cocktails. These were useless against a tank, they acknowledged, but a symbol of defiance nonetheless. The town, led by a 32-year-old mayor, organised itself. The community was plucky and ready to improvise in dark times, like Ukrainian society as a whole."
A Small, Stubborn Town by Andrew Harding – the war in Ukraine in skilful miniature
Spanning just a few dramatic days, the foreign reporter’s riveting account of the battle for Voznesensk highlights the weaknesses of Putin’s invasion and the courage of Ukrainians
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
"Can't win a fight?" Didn't you and many others on here used to be involved in physical force antifascism? Plus like loads of wars and battles and strikes and movements that used force. WTF are you on about?
Whether you know it or not you're just then repeating Russian State propaganda, "throwing old men at the fight" and reducing a complex military operation over months that's part underway into a simple singular 'break through' that you somehow judge won't and can't happen.
You just forgot your line about one legged men being forced back to the front line.
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It has been at least a week since Russia started talking about throwing nukes about
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Just spent 2 days with someone back from Ukraine (after 8 months there in civilian society) and they (while much more skeptical than I about things) said the level of support and engagement for the war felt almost universal. I mean anecdata but still.
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