Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25

[cupid_stunt]

Yes down with shit like ceasefires. The killing must go on.

Fucking hell, you are one thick twat.

The message is clear, take the ceasefire, but watch carefully what they are up to, they can't be trusted.

 

[existentialist]

No idea but it must be pissing Johnson off no end. He’s on the sidelines being berated by the EU for our uniquely compromised conspicuously shitty sanctions. Not very churchillian at all.

There's no point one posturing cunt having a meeting with another posturing cunt. And they probably have too much in common, much of it with a £ sign in front.

 

[RD2003]

Fucking hell, you are one thick twat.

Maybe it's just that I'm a non-combatant, unlike you.

 

[existentialist]

Fucking hell, you are one thick twat.

I was just going to say "You twat", but you saved me the trouble. He's impugning the motives of posters in an identical way to how Putin impugnes the motives of Ukraine, the West, er, anyone who disagrees with him...

(RD2003 - don't bother looking up "impugning". You won't like it)

 

[Cid]

They are both short.

*under 175cm

Olaf is the same height as Putin. Though he's also the new kid in town. And possibly at risk of saying that 'everything's fine because Vla- I mean Putin will guarantee very good fossil fuel deals for us, all Ukraine has to do is capitulate'.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Russia has traditionally seen France as a back door into Europe and the west thanks to De Gaulle.

It's another sign Putin hasn't moved in from his KGB days.


(Sounds convincing, I'm no fucking expert in this shit)

 

[RD2003]

I was just going to say "You twat", but you saved me the trouble. He's impugning the motives of posters in an identical way to how Putin impugnes the motives of Ukraine, the West, er, anyone who disagrees with him...

(RD2003 - don't bother looking up "impugning". You won't like it)

Yes, before every post I ever make I think 'What would Putin say here?'

 

[Artaxerxes]

Can we stop with the short shit btw.

 

[Cid]

Russia has traditionally seen France as a back door into Europe and the west thanks to De Gaulle.

It's another sign Putin hasn't moved in from his KGB days.


(Sounds convincing, I'm no fucking expert in this shit)

Most convincing explanation so far award.

And sorry for continuing the short thing.

 

[weltweit]

Listening to the BBC Reith Lectures on AI this year the presenter said that the US military used an AI to plan its supply lines and logistics before its recent wars. Not saying that the task was beyond human planners but the implication was that the computers did a better job or quicker.

It certainly looks, at least in the north of Ukraine, like the Russians have miscalculated on their requirements for supplies to the front line. Or that static column is it, and it just isn't moving.

 

[bimble]

 

[Kaka Tim]

can RD2003 be fucked of this thread please? attention seeking twat who adds nothing

 

[CNT36]

Listening to the BBC Reith Lectures on AI this year the presenter said that the US military used an AI to plan its supply lines and logistics before its recent wars. Not saying that the task was beyond human planners but the implication was that the computers did a better job or quicker.

How'd that go?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Both sides will use any ceasefire to resupply and manoeuvre - I reckon it favours the Ukrainians more though.

Reading through all the stuff about how badly Russia's military are performing the consensus seem to be head scratching at just how incompetent they are - seems they really did think it would be like Czechoslovakia 1968. That has presumably come from Putin - that and the corruption, poor communication and bad training has left a huge army struggling with supplies, morale and having to reboot its entire operation on the hoof.

We are maybe witnessing one of the greatest military disasters ever. Hopefully the army mutinies and turns on Putin. Several far grimmer scenarios are available though ...

 

[Flavour]

Question - Why does Macron apparently have such unique access to Putin?

Of the three Western powers with a permanent seat on the UN Security Council (USA, UK, France) France is seen as the least hostile to Russia. Also because there is a bit of a hangover from the Tsarist era, perhaps, where the Russian aristocratic class were very Francophile

 

[bimble]

survivors of previous wars speaking to Putin from a bunker in Kiev. That's me done in & destroyed for today.

 

[xenon]

(Advance apologies if these have been posted before)

From the excellent belllingcat and Global Investigative Journalism Network websites. Well worth a read:

Invasion of Ukraine: Tracking use of Cluster Munitions in Civilian Areas - bellingcat

Open source evidence shows that cluster munitions have hit civilian areas in Ukraine during opening days of war with Russia. The direction from which the rockets have travelled provide clues as to who may have fired them.

www.bellingcat.com

15 Tips for Investigating War Crimes

Reporting violations in an active conflict, previously a daunting and life threatening task, has now become easier thanks to open-source reporting techniques, which provide investigative journalists much greater ability to investigate war crimes as they happen.

gijn.org

Cheers. I'm gonna repost this in the thread I started for sources cos of ego... Well not really just it's easier to find for me and maybe others if needing to revisit.

 

[weltweit]

How'd that go?

I think the implications were that US front line forces didn't run out of supplies.

 

[weltweit]

I found this page interesting.

Putin's inner circle

Ukraine conflict: Who's in Putin's inner circle and running the war?

Russia's president relies on a small but deeply loyal group of people when he makes key decisions.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

can RD2003 be fucked of this thread please? attention seeking twat who adds nothing

no censorship

 

[weltweit]

The story of the many foreign students of Ukraine

Ukraine: Why so many African and Indian students were in the country

The thousands of foreign students who have fled the conflict are wondering what to do next.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

bimble

Ukraine Airbnbs being booked in effort to get money to residents

People are paying but not staying, as rental platform offers free housing to 100,000 Ukrainian refugees

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dogsauce]

Keep thinking that at some point they’ll kill the wrong people and some other country will have a pop back at them, then remember that the US bombed the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia and somehow got away with it.

 

[Supine]

bimble

Ukraine Airbnbs being booked in effort to get money to residents

People are paying but not staying, as rental platform offers free housing to 100,000 Ukrainian refugees

www.theguardian.com

Funny enough I did this earlier today. I have a nice apartment booked on the outskirts of kyiv this fri/sat nights.

 

[Raheem]

Funny enough I did this earlier today. I have a nice apartment booked on the outskirts of kyiv this fri/sat nights.

Hope the neighbours don't make too much noise.

 

[editor]

Don't think so, but I might have. I often say stuff on the spur of the moment. It's entertaining, especially some of the responses from those who think they're actually politicians.

And even if I did, why is a different viewpoint a problem for you?

But a gaggle of you are derailing again by trying to make it about me. Try not to.

This thread isn't about you entertaining yourself.

 

[tim]

Tbf, the US used them to frazzle scumbags hiding in caves in Tora Bora. There is a bit of a moral gulf between this and firing them off in residential areas.

Only if you think Ukrainian lives matter more than Afghan lives.

 

[existentialist]

Only if you think Ukrainian lives matter more than Afghan lives.

TBF, bombing a cave in which a relatively small number of enemy are hiding is a bit of a different prospect from bombing a civilian residential area.

 

[Aladdin]

survivors of previous wars speaking to Putin from a bunker in Kiev. That's me done in & destroyed for today.

No words.

 

[Bingoman]

According to the BBC it been reported that Russia's credit rating is close to junk territory