Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-25

[2hats]

(Reuters) The US have just lifted the ban on Ukraine striking into Russia using US arms.

 

[Ax^]

Dark Bidens final move

starting world war 3..

"that orange fucker is not getting back in this house "

 

[teqniq]

(Reuters) The US have just lifted the ban on Ukraine striking into Russia using US arms.

This was tweeted September 25th so there could be potential for serious escalation:

 

[Ax^]

in all honestly what other day's in the last 3 years has he not threaten to nuke everyone

it like get up , brush teeth , threaten to nuke the west, throw underling out of a locked window, breakfast

 

[_Russ_]

This just allows Ukraine to do a bit of firing for effect before they are left high and dry, maybe recapture some symbolic town or two, it's way too late to change the course of things.

 

[PTK]

It seems to me that the USA had decided that it could no longer continue to back the war, and that the election of a new President was a good excuse to end to change course.

 

[planetgeli]

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Chz]

General opinion seems to be that the Houtis will get Russian antiship missles to fire at things. Though that doesn't strike fear quite as much as it used to, as least not to the American destroyer captains. Can't say I'd want to pilot a merchant ship through there.

 

[The39thStep]

General opinion seems to be that the Houtis will get Russian antiship missles to fire at things. Though that doesn't strike fear quite as much as it used to, as least not to the American destroyer captains. Can't say I'd want to pilot a merchant ship through there.

I am optimistically waiting for a poster to tell us how to pilot a merchant ship in this sort of situation.

 

[TopCat]

General opinion seems to be that the Houtis will get Russian antiship missles to fire at things. Though that doesn't strike fear quite as much as it used to, as least not to the American destroyer captains. Can't say I'd want to pilot a merchant ship through there.

General opinion? Can you be more specific?

 

[Ax^]

I am optimistically waiting for a poster to tell us how to pilot a merchant ship in this sort of situation.

calmly is the best option, getting over excited whilst at sea never ends well

 

[SpookyFrank]

in all honestly what other day's in the last 3 years has he not threaten to nuke everyone

it like get up , brush teeth , threaten to nuke the west, throw underling out of a locked window, breakfast

Who brushes their teeth before breakfast? The man's clearly a monster

 

[Protag]

Fook me:

Letting Ukraine fire missiles into Russia unlikely to have decisive effect

With a Donald Trump presidency looming, Ukraine also badly needs an opportunity to show what it can do, with western help, on the battlefield.

So let me get this right: before Orange Hitler gets in, we are going to fire US/UK rockets at a nuclear state. You cannot make this shit up. Fooking Grauniad

 

[xenon]

General opinion seems to be that the Houtis will get Russian antiship missles to fire at things. Though that doesn't strike fear quite as much as it used to, as least not to the American destroyer captains. Can't say I'd want to pilot a merchant ship through there.

I await criticism for them getting involved in a European issue. Fuck the houties.

 

[Pickman's model]

I await criticism for them getting involved in a European issue. Fuck the houties.

I don't think anyone likes hospital-onset urinary tract infections.

 

[Silas Loom]

Who brushes their teeth before breakfast? The man's clearly a monster

Oh god, this thread will run for 90 pages and cause at least four permaflounces.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh god, this thread will run for 90 pages and cause at least four permaflounces.

Could be good, depends who goes

 

[TopCat]

I await criticism for them getting involved in a European issue. Fuck the houties.

How dare the Houthi’s show support for Gaza

 

[klang]

How dare the Houthi’s show support for Gaza

Not as simple as that I'm afraid.

 

[tim]

I am optimistically waiting for a poster to tell us how to pilot a merchant ship in this sort of situation.

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calmly is the best option, getting over excited whilst at sea never ends well

Paying people not to fire stuff at you is also a sensible precaution.

 

[ID47]

Let me get this right. These missiles and the British/French missiles depend on some kind of input from either US personnel or from US satellites to guide them on to a target in Russia?

Is that right or not?

 

[Spymaster]

Let me get this right. These missiles and the British/French missiles depend on some kind of input from either US personnel or from US satellites to guide them on to a target in Russia?

Is that right or not?

They can be used without the US topographical guidance systems but would rely on gps only which makes them less accurate and more prone to interception over long range.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

No.

It is suggested (by Russia) that the US is giving intel obtained via their satellites as to where to target the things, which may or may not be true, even if it is, so what?

Ukraine does seem to have a very efficient intelligence service with a lot of moles inside Russia, so probably using that more than US satellites (which could just be Google Earth), they have been using their own drones successfully against oil refineries and arms dumps for ages.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Storm Shadow - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The missile is fire and forget, programmed before launch. Once launched, it cannot be controlled or commanded to self-destroy and its target information cannot be changed. Mission planners program the weapon with details of the target and its air defences. The missile follows a path semi-autonomously, on a low flight path guided by GPS and terrain mapping to the target area.[

 

[TopCat]

Let me get this right. These missiles and the British/French missiles depend on some kind of input from either US personnel or from US satellites to guide them on to a target in Russia?

Is that right or not?

That’s about right. US mapping plus tech people on the ground.

 

[TopCat]

Not as simple as that I'm afraid.

Ineffectual support only please

 

[klang]

Ineffectual support only please

I wouldn't put too much trust in their commitment to the greater good.

 

[dshl]

Who brushes their teeth before breakfast? The man's clearly a monster

Counterintuitive but Putin’s got the order right. Brushing after eating means rubbing food acid around destroying the enamel, or something like that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Paying people not to fire stuff at you is also a sensible precaution

Ignoring the experience of the English with the danes

 

[TopCat]

I wouldn't put too much trust in their commitment to the greater good.

For sure