Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[butchersapron]

What shall we do tmw houbs? How about you come back and offer something to thread instead of this rubbish? I've made 700 posts over two years dealing directly with the issue of the thread. Think you could maybe have a go at doing something similar? Take a few small steps first and i'm sure you'll get the swing of it in no time.

 

[krtek a houby]

What shall we do tmw houbs? How about you come back and offer something to thread instead of this rubbish? I've made 700 posts over two years dealing directly with the issue of the thread. Think you could maybe have a go at doing something similar? Take a few small steps first and i'm sure you'll get the swing of it in no time.

What has that got to do with UKIP support, do you think?

 

[butchersapron]

Nope, i thought not. I suspect you knew that as well. I think everyone knew it actually. Oh well. It'll be adult time again soon.

 

[krtek a houby]

Nope, i thought not. I suspect you knew that as well. I think everyone knew it actually. Oh well. It'll be adult time again soon.

I think I've proved my point. You don't like it much when the tables are turned on you.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

He said, patronisingly. Yeah, I think I get it now.

Which is worse, being lightly patronised or being portrayed as some sort of UKIP fan? You do remember doing that?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[butchersapron]

I think I've proved my point. You don't like it much when the tables are turned on you.

What?

Serious?

 

[killer b]

He really got to you there, I can tell.

 

[krtek a houby]

Which is worse, being lightly patronised or being portrayed as some sort of UKIP fan? You do remember doing that?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I don't understand. Let me put it this way - urban roundly condemned UKIP and their foul utterances and then, suddenly, we're not supposed to focus on the xenephobia, homophobia, jingoism and so on. We're supposed to focus on their policies. I'm not entirely sure what they are, the last one I saw was in 2010 which has been dropped by Farrage et al.

Thing is, being an ordinary drone, me - I talk to people (outside of the internet) and any UKIP supporter I've talked to isn't too pushed about the NHS, maternity leave, etc. It always, in my experience, is about immigration, "coloureds" (I kid you not) and jobs for "English people".

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I don't understand. Let me put it this way - urban roundly condemned UKIP and their foul utterances and then, suddenly, we're not supposed to focus on the xenephobia, homophobia, jingoism and so on. We're supposed to focus on their policies. I'm not entirely sure what they are, the last one I saw was in 2010 which has been dropped by Farrage et al.

Thing is, being an ordinary drone, me - I talk to people (outside of the internet) and any UKIP supporter I've talked to isn't too pushed about the NHS, maternity leave, etc. It always, in my experience, is about immigration, "coloureds" (I kid you not) and jobs for "English people".

1. What has any of that to do with you portraying me as a UKIP supporter?

2. My experience is different. Do we stick with your singular 'ordinary drone' take on UKIP or go with something that allows for a variety of approaches?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[andysays]

What has that got to do with UKIP support, do you think?

I'm not sure that's likely to be a successful catchphrase as 'Stone me, what a life!' or even the one-off "A pint? Why, that's very nearly an armful!"

 

[krtek a houby]

1. What has any of that to do with you portraying me as a UKIP supporter?

2. My experience is different. Do we stick with your singular 'ordinary drone' take on UKIP or go with something that allows for a variety of approaches?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Ok, let's go for a variety of approaches, then. Which, I imagine, would require me taking on board the idea that not all UKIP supporters are swivel eyed loons.

I concede that. I'm sure there are wonderful people intending to vote for UKIP and help usher in a new age of honesty, decency and prosperity in politics and British life in general.

Is that more like it?

 

[butchersapron]

It's actually genuinely pathetic.

 

[krtek a houby]

It's actually genuinely pathetic.

Do tell us how you'd like me to think, butchers. You know; tell me what to say, read, do, vote, whatever.

I know you're dying to. Or better still, send it to me in pm and quit clogging up the threads with your personal vendetta against me.

 

[Idris2002]

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[butchersapron]

Do tell us how you'd like me to think, butchers. You know; tell me what to say, read, do, vote, whatever.

I know you're dying to. Or better still, send it to me in pm and quit clogging up the threads with your personal vendetta against me.

Why? Stop doing this.

 

[redsquirrel]

I don't understand. Let me put it this way - urban roundly condemned UKIP and their foul utterances and then, suddenly, we're not supposed to focus on the xenephobia, homophobia, jingoism and so on. We're supposed to focus on their policies. I'm not entirely sure what they are, the last one I saw was in 2010 which has been dropped by Farrage et al.

Who's the "we" here? You can do whatever you want. You've quite clearly not bothered to read this thread.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Do tell us how you'd like me to think, butchers. You know; tell me what to say, read, do, vote, whatever.

I know you're dying to. Or better still, send it to me in pm and quit clogging up the threads with your personal vendetta against me.

No need to be flattered into thinking it a personal vendetta, that would be to cast you as alone in having the honour of being on the other end of the pompous invective.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

just experimented with the ignore button and it's improved the quality of the thread no end...

 

[killer b]

Good shout.

 

[belboid]

No need to be flattered into thinking it a personal vendetta, that would be to cast you as alone in having the honour of being on the other end of the pompous invective.

It's certainly not personal from ba, re you, every single person on the boards who has ever read your contributions agrees that you are fucking shit.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Ok, let's go for a variety of approaches, then. Which, I imagine, would require me taking on board the idea that not all UKIP supporters are swivel eyed loons.

I concede that. I'm sure there are wonderful people intending to vote for UKIP and help usher in a new age of honesty, decency and prosperity in politics and British life in general.

Is that more like it?

So given the heavy handed irony of your post, you do actually think that all UKIP voters are swivel eyed loons. Thanks for the clarity; I'll leave you to your impotent, shallow, one eyed view.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

p.s. just to be clear, this isn't about telling you what to think...rather just to think a little bit harder; the idea that all UKIP voters are swivel eyed loons is risible (consider for a second all those who have and will vote for them tactically to give either the Tories or Labour a scare).

 

[andysays]

So given the heavey handed irony of your post, you do actually think that all UKIP voters are swivel eyed loons. Thaks for the clarity; I'll leave you to your impotent, shallow, one eyed view...

In the interests of further clarity, how does describing someone as "swivel eyed" compare to describing them as "one eyed", and should we be using either term to refer to someone we disagree with?

Discuss...

 

[Louis MacNeice]

In the interests of further clarity, how does describing someone as "swivel eyed" compare to describing them as "one eyed", and should we be using either term to refer to someone we disagree with?

Discuss...

One eyed refers to kret's appreciation that UKIP voters have one reason for voting UKIP; i.e. they are being racist. I'm pointing out that this singular explanation lacks depth perception (and carries with it potential risks), in a way which is analogous with having one eye; which is a physical fact. Swivel eyed loons is a bit more of a pejorative, value judgement.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[brogdale]

One eyed refers to kret's appreciation that UKIP voters have one reason for voting UKIP; i.e. they are being racist. I'm pointing out that this singular explanation lacks depth perception (and carries with it potential risks), in a way which is analogous with having one eye; which is a physical fact. Swivel eyed loons is a bit more of a pejorative, value judgement.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Yep, there's no reason whatsoever why either term should not be applied to obsessive nationalist/Europhobes. Swivel-eyed implies no physical impairment, merely the wild eye movements of frenzy.

 

[andysays]

One eyed refers to kret's appreciation that UKIP voters have one reason for voting UKIP; i.e. they are being racist. I'm pointing out that this singular explanation lacks depth perception (and carries with it potential risks), in a way which is analogous with having one eye; which is a physical fact. Swivel eyed loons is a bit more of a pejorative, value judgement.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Not sure which of these to use, or

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Not sure which of these to use, or

Why not both? Oh you did!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Yep, there's no reason whatsoever why either term should not be applied to obsessive nationalist/Europhobes. Swivel-eyed implies no physical impairment, merely the wild eye movements of frenzy.

Surely the swivel eyed only works in conjunction with the loons bit?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[brogdale]

Surely the swivel eyed only works in conjunction with the loons bit?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

As you see fit.

 

[belboid]

Surely the swivel eyed only works in conjunction with the loons bit?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I think it was a feature on some models of Action Man too

 

[brogdale]

I think it was a feature on some models of Action Man too

The Daniel Hannan set?