Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Uber: Crap/Not-Crap?

Uber...

  • Crap, just another proft-maximising smash n grap assault on labour

    Votes: 47 49.5%
  • Not Crap, better, cheaper, good for you and good for me

    Votes: 26 27.4%
  • Crap and Not crap - let me explain

    Votes: 14 14.7%
  • Comedy response

    Votes: 8 8.4%

  • Total voters
    95
Yeah, but we're talking about candid chit chat in the car, not public denouncements. No reason not to be truthful really.
Bullshit. If you don't think many workers are going to be cautious about criticising their employer to a stranger then you must live in a different world to the rest of us. And when that organisation is renowned for it's hostility to criticism and strongly anti-union that goes double.
 
I don't know about you but I have never rated a driver on how well they sing the praises of their employer or not.
I've never rated a driver full stop. I don't use taxis except extremely exceptionally (or on a trip).

There are cunts out there, though. If I were an Uber driver, I wouldn't be slagging them off to the people (strangers) who are about to rate me.

Bottom line, this is not an equal power relationship - your passengers' opinion of you matters to you more than your opinion of them matters to them. You have more at stake, namely your livelihood, therefore their power to rate you has more power over you than your power to rate them has over them. Don't expect truth in such a situation.
 
Last edited:
I've never rated a driver full stop. I don't use taxis except extremely exceptionally.

There are cunts out there, though. If I were an Uber driver, I wouldn't be slagging them off to the people (strangers) who are about to rate me.

I've used uber quite a lot and at no point have I ever felt I was given a line about how great they are. I can't conclusively prove it, but seems odd to me to think that a driver would be trying to get me to increase their good feedback by them bigging up uber. I rate their performance and service, not their affinity to their employer.
 
Amazing! I can't imagine why someone who works for an organisation that is know to be highly hostile to any criticism, might refrain from slagging the company off.
I met a deliveroo driver yesterday , it wasn't me was my friend who deliverood. So I asked him how it was all going with the fight against the new contracts . He had no idea what I was on about, no clue.
 
Last edited:
I've used uber quite a lot and at no point have I ever felt I was given a line about how great they are. I can't conclusively prove it, but seems odd to me to think that a driver would be trying to get me to increase their good feedback by them bigging up uber. I rate their performance and service, not their affinity to their employer.
Where did I say they would be bigging up uber? And you miss the point that not everyone is you. Also, your particular driver might be genuinely pleased by them. Or they might just have a work face, one that they give to everyone. Have you not done that in a job? I know I have, working for people I hated too.
 
Where did I say they would be bigging up uber? And you miss the point that not everyone is you. Also, your particular driver might be genuinely pleased by them. Or they might just have a work face, one that they give to everyone. Have you not done that in a job? I know I have, working for people I hated too.

OK ok. I'm just saying that I've never got the impression that drivers are unhappy with the deal. That could well be because of some kind of pressure to be positive and get good feedback sure, but I just don't feel they've been evasive with the truth when I've asked about it.
 
OK ok. I'm just saying that I've never got the impression that drivers are unhappy with the deal. That could well be because of some kind of pressure to be positive and get good feedback sure, but I just don't feel they've been evasive with the truth when I've asked about it.
It will be in their contracts that they can't bad mouth the company to passengers and probably stressed in any induction they go through. I know this is the case with other London too end cab firms (not so much at hole in the wall firms).
 
You all know that you get rated as a passenger too, right?

You can find out your rating within the depths of the app.

That for me is when capitalism went too far. I was having a great time of it until the possibility emerged that there would be a version of those 'DO NOT SERVE THIS MAN BLUE WKD' posters they have behind the counter at Londis, everywhere I go. So when a Dacia Logan arrives, you have to ask yourself, is it because I only gave the last guy four stars after he jumped a red light and crashed into the side of a bus? Or is it because I once said out loud that I didn't think Jeremy Corbyn was that bad?
 
the ratings have gone too far, in all wys. Landlords forum for their secret conniving blacklists we all know they have. PunterNet so you can leave a review of the last sex worker you visited. Its madness. And gross
 
OK ok. I'm just saying that I've never got the impression that drivers are unhappy with the deal. That could well be because of some kind of pressure to be positive and get good feedback sure, but I just don't feel they've been evasive with the truth when I've asked about it.

Why would they air their grievances with a random stranger who, for all they know, could be a 'mystery shopper' ? Seems like a good way to get the sack.
 
Why would they air their grievances with a random stranger who, for all they know, could be a 'mystery shopper' ? Seems like a good way to get the sack.

If I had genuine grievances with a company, I probably wouldn't say much either way. But the vibe I've got is most are happy to speak about how they like it.

But ok I take the point. There's no way to ever really know.
 
Looks like the GMB have won vs Uber

I am not sure "won" is a strong enough word, tbh - the judgement handed down appears to be one of the more comprehensive legal kickings handed out of recent years:

Cv3BClmXEAE1f_3.jpg


:D
 
Excellent first round but Uber can (and will) appeal. It's not over yet.

Incidentally what do those who claiming that Uber driver's were happy have to say about this case?
I wondered myself whether the GMB did all this on behalf of hackney carriage drivers many more of whom would likely be in the Union.Great result though the ramifications likely to be massive.
 
If I had genuine grievances with a company, I probably wouldn't say much either way. But the vibe I've got is most are happy to speak about how they like it.

But ok I take the point. There's no way to ever really know.
You don't think employee's going to the employment tribunal with all the time, energy and pressure that involves - not to mention putting their livelihoods on the line - might indicate that quite a lot of people aren't happy with the company? Or what about the strikes, just people having a laugh?
 
Oh no, you've got a chip on your shoulder. Some blokes I met in taxis were chatty and chirpy. Union backed legal action means nothing compared to that. Workers don't need anyone to be concerned about rights as long as they say they're happy :hmm:
 
I took an uberpool tonight having missed a train. The pool thing is a great idea. We have to get away from private car ownership. I just don't think we should have private cars in London.

I'd like to see the uber model put in place for scooters, like if you are in Thailand or somewhere, you jump on the back of a scooter taxi. Why not in London? if they are electric scooters, that's about as ecologically friendly as you can get, it would be the fastest way to get around, and, it doesn't clog up the roads. Lower running costs for drivers and quicker drops means lower prices per journey. What's not to like?
 
I took an uberpool tonight having missed a train. The pool thing is a great idea. We have to get away from private car ownership. I just don't think we should have private cars in London.

I'd like to see the uber model put in place for scooters, like if you are in Thailand or somewhere, you jump on the back of a scooter taxi. Why not in London? if they are electric scooters, that's about as ecologically friendly as you can get, it would be the fastest way to get around, and, it doesn't clog up the roads. Lower running costs for drivers and quicker drops means lower prices per journey. What's not to like?
Falling off
 
I'd risk it anyway. Imagine, you type in your destination into an uber-style app, and within a matter of minutes your electric scooter is there, you hop on and you are at your destination in 5 mins, you hop off and that's it. We can do this :) Once we have got rid of the cars, it'll be much safer for everyone
 
Back
Top Bottom