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So how will Putin end?

How will Putin end?


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Like Krushchev. He will feel the loss of authority in the inner circle. He will know something is up and one day he will attend a meeting when his authority is just gone. He may remain in power or may be forced into retirement. But his orders will no longer have the weight.
 
The Hitler option was closest to what I think will happen...

He will push the button as soon as he goes bonkers enough on his Parkinson's and cancer meds, after getting the "it's weeks, not months" speech from his physician and his replacement physician and their replacement physician (the first several having followed the 2022 trend of stabbing themselves while also defenestrating themselves from a tall hospital window)
 
Sadly the worst that could happen for Putin is that he dies of loneliness at the far end of his vast table!

I don't see any premature end for the man :( :)
 
i see navalny's dead
His lawyer is apparently on the way as they have not recieved any confirmation of his death yet.

But reports are ..
"
The Federal Penitentiary Service of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District said in a statement that Navalny "felt unwell" after a walk at the IK-3 penal colony in Kharp, about 1,900km north east of Moscow.

Navalny, the prison service said, had lost consciousness almost immediately.

"The medical staff of the institution arrived immediately, and an ambulance team was called," the prison service said.
"All necessary resuscitation measures were carried out, which did not yield positive results. Doctors of the ambulance stated the death of the convict."
"The causes of death are being established."



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Doesn't look like Putin is ending.


'To vote for Putin, you did not need to support his regime or his war with Ukraine. You might well be content with the one thing he promises: security and a patriotic response to western abuse. Nato’s escalation of its logistical aid to Ukraine into an all-out economic war on the Russian people enabled Putin to construct an anti-west coalition. It now extends from China and India to embrace a stage army of authoritarians across the globe. This economic war has clearly been counter-productive. The Economist reports this week that the sanctions have in fact “juiced the [Russian] economy”. Russian GDP growth of approximately 3 % in real terms last year outstripped Britain’s. Western policy is actively helping Putin retain power.

As the historian of modern Russia Mark Galeotti points out, Putin’s defiance of his western critics has entrenched his “shabby police state”, possibly for his lifetime. We can hurl abuse at him, as we can at Xi, Modi and the rest. It may make us feel better. And perhaps we should, not least on moral grounds: these are not regimes we would cast as admirable. But let’s be realistic. There is not the slightest evidence that in doing so we are making the world a safer place for democracy; probably the reverse.'


 
Sadly Putin remains with us and the economies of Western Europe are increasingly turning to a war footing. If Ukraine lose Russia will likely continue.
 
When Putin either dies or is replaced, right wing and left wing liberals in the west will celebrate, blind in their fatuous optimism to the fact that Russia, even if there is a 'liberal' interregnum, will remain Russia, and do what Russia traditionally does, no matter what condition it finds itself in. Everything that's happened since the Soviet Union collapsed tells us precisely that.

They have no idea how to deal with a world where authoritarianism is in the ascendency, including in their own societies, as it defies all their delusions. They really have no idea how to deal with it other than to restate, with increasing emphasis, that it's wrong. And this while more or less everything they favour gives succour to populists and authoritarians, both would-be and actual.
 
When Putin either dies or is replaced, right wing and left wing liberals in the west will celebrate, blind in their fatuous optimism to the fact that Russia, even if there is a 'liberal' interregnum, will remain Russia, and do what Russia traditionally does, no matter what condition it finds itself in. Everything that's happened since the Soviet Union collapsed tells us precisely that.

They have no idea how to deal with a world where authoritarianism is in the ascendency, including in their own societies, as it defies all their delusions. They really have no idea how to deal with it other than to restate, with increasing emphasis, that it's wrong. And this while more or less everything they favour gives succour to populists and authoritarians, both would-be and actual.
Russia has never had a democratic change of power. I think people are resigned to being ruled by cunts and crooks, and always have been. There’s a lot of cynicism about this in the population but no belief in an ability to change it, because they probably can’t and know it. And we’re not that far away from this here either, there’s a narrowly acceptable range of viewpoints in politics, just the rosette changes colour, anything outside this gets shut down or ignored.
 
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