Tottenham Hotspur 2011-2012 Official Thread

[butchersapron]

No you didn't - you suggested that there was general lack of sympathy for those reasons. You attempted to project your own moral failings onto others. And god knows, there was enough moral failures in the immediate aftermath of the original racist post without you adding to them.

 

[Lo Siento.]

I said I have less sympathy for him, given he dishes out rape and paedo "banter" which I consider worse.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/michael-owen-to-man-u.221024/page-5#post-7981453

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/xabi-alonso-staying.223743/#post-8076497

Where to start with this bollocks?

 

[Random]

I said I have less sympathy for him, given he dishes out rape and paedo "banter" which I consider worse.

Making lurid and clearly untrue allegations about celebrity footballers is clearly not the same thing as directly abusing another U75 poster.

 

[butchersapron]

Where to start with this bollocks?

Just let people click on the links - this is what he considers worse:

Oh right. I've heard that Gerrard regularly kidnaps and rapes the entire Liverpool U18 squad while his wife watches. From a source I have at Anfield.

That's worse. To emphasise once more - the above is worse than what he got.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Imagine having the sort of mind where facetious "abuse" meted out to Steven Gerrard from afar offended you more than actual direct racism.

 

[Random]

What is it with people who choose usernames based on leftie punk banks, like sleaterkinney and the Clash's London Calling and then go about defending racial abuse?

 

[butchersapron]

What is it with people who choose usernames based on leftie punk banks, like sleaterkinney and the Clash's London Calling and then go about defending racial abuse?

And you ain't even seen SK's defence of racist abuse on the suarez thread yet.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Imagine having the sort of mind where facetious "abuse" meted out to Steven Gerrard from afar offended you more than actual direct racism.

"banter" about rape and paedos?, Yeah, it must just be me then.

 

[Lo Siento.]

"banter" about rape and paedos?, Yeah, it must just be me then.

It really is, genuinely, 100%, just you.

You're comparing the offense derived from seeing horrific things used in a facetious way about celebrities to actual, direct, racist abuse. I dunno, maybe you're weird enough to think Stevie Me is your mate or something and take it personally.

 

[sleaterkinney]

It really is, genuinely, 100%, just you.

You're comparing the offense derived from seeing horrific things used in a facetious way about celebrities to actual, direct, racist abuse. I dunno, maybe you're weird enough to think Stevie Me is your mate or something and take it personally.

I don't take it personally, I just don't think things like rape are acceptable to joke about, I don't have to know the person to be offended by someone making a joke like that, the fact that he is a celebrity is neither here nor there.

 

[Citizen66]

I don't take it personally, I just don't think things like rape are acceptable to joke about, I don't have to know the person to be offended by someone making a joke like that, the fact that he is a celebrity is neither here nor there.

So the appropriate response is to turn a blind eye to racial abuse?

 

[butchersapron]

So the appropriate response is to turn a blind eye to racial abuse?

It must be - there can be no other.

 

[sleaterkinney]

So the appropriate response is to turn a blind eye to racial abuse?

What?

 

[butchersapron]

What?

He's describing what you done.

 

[Athos]

Surely the fact they some things are bad and others are much worse isn't too difficult a concept?

 

[sleaterkinney]

So the appropriate response is to turn a blind eye to racial abuse?

Perhaps if he had not made rapey and noncey "banter" then I would have thought he deserved more respect, yeah.

 

[butchersapron]

So, yes, this is your preferred response to racial abuse that you see (and he didn't do what you said anyway). Suck it the fuck up.

 

[Citizen66]

Perhaps if he had not made rapey and noncey "banter" then I would have thought he deserved more respect, yeah.

So racial abuse is acceptable if the target has upset a group of white guys on a footie banter thread. Understood.

 

[Random]

So racial abuse is acceptable if the target has upset a group of white guys on a footie banter thread. Understood.

Imagine a similar incident: "He insulted the queen's portrait so I called him a Pakistani tosser". We'd all think it was insane.

 

[Athos]

Imagine a similar incident: "He insulted the queen's portrait so I called him a Pakistani tosser". We'd all think it was insane.

I do think it's insane.

 

[Random]

I do think it's insane.

Fair point. I think almost everyone does, but sleaterkinney is not getting it on purpose.

 

[Fedayn]

I said I have less sympathy for him, given he dishes out rape and paedo "banter" which I consider worse.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/michael-owen-to-man-u.221024/page-5#post-7981453

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/xabi-alonso-staying.223743/#post-8076497

Are you seriously giving that as a reply? You really are a clueless snivelling little clown.

 

[Wilf]

LC - as I said on the posters who have disappeared thread, I don't think you have much credit in the bank due to your default superiority setting. However whilst what you posted was racist, I'd be willing to put it down to some horrible misjudgement, an attempt at edgy banter etc. However, if you aren't willing to make a simple apology, that benefit of the doubt starts to erode. Straightforward apologies might not be your style - and are sometimes meaningless or formulaic. That isn't the case here though.

 

[editor]

Indeed. No doubt in my mind that it was deliberate now. For some reason on the tv I couldn't be sure - his legs looked all tangled up, he looked more off balance, just couldn't be certain. Don't know if it was a different angle, or if I was just trying too hard not to be partisan about it.

And another sending off here.

Back on topic, I've only just seen this clip.
Fucking hell. That is nasty.

 

[twistedAM]

Back on topic, I've only just seen this clip.
Fucking hell. That is nasty.

Have you seen the extended sequence? Clever edit that.

 

[editor]

Have you seen the extended sequence? Clever edit that.

Is he as innocent as a new born lamb frolicking in the meadows then?

 

[twistedAM]

Is he as innocent as a new born lamb frolicking in the meadows then?

That, and Joleon doesn't like modern football.

 

[editor]

That, and Joleon doesn't like modern football.

Where may I see this extended sequence please?

 

[twistedAM]

Where may I see this extended sequence please?

Had a quick look on youtube; a lot of that stuff gets pulled. Just one snap from MotD (Hansen agrees with you btw).

 

[editor]

Had a quick look on youtube; a lot of that stuff gets pulled. Just one snap from MotD (Hansen agrees with you btw).

Maybe he was right.