Tory MP David Amess Stabbed to Death 15/10/21

[Orang Utan]

Oh.. I do hope so. If we start poking them with split tickets they might pop.

I was only having a laugh. It’s not him

 

[Smokeandsteam]

sure that not speculation at all

Merely

You don't think that



plays a major role in producing



Really?

You're going along with Spymaster and the line of "that's Muslims for ya!"

You already know my view as we discussed it up thread!

 

[klang]

/

can relate, but slashing your wrists won't solve anything.

 

[little_legs]

I met David Amess a couple of times at least as a kid - one time at least at church (I'm not Catholic, but by Dad is) and at least once at a count, plus one other time he came to my school where he had to be quickly shephered in and out because despite there being a lot of Tories in the area their kids tended not to be the type to like pompous MPS.

He was not actually well known for helping constituents. Some Tory MPs are but he's not one of them. Him being dead doesn't change that.

So I've been aware of him for a fair while. He shouldn't have died this way, because it's horrific. Sudden violent deaths always leave scars on those left behind. And it will be bad for anyone interested in social justice and fair access to their members of parliament.

If MPs become more scared after this, like some did after Jo Cox was killed, it's understandable. Funnily enough I was scheduled to go on a tour of the HoP on Friday and when we get to the gate they said they weren't doing tours "out of respect." I think it was probably more wise security precautions, TBH. Though they'd better give me my money back.

The BBC had a hagiography of Amess on sometime on Friday evening. It mentioned that he loved Thatcher, that he was an animal welfare champion, and that he was active when it came to helping women with endometriosis.

All that is true. But he was also extremely anti-immigrant, homophobic, against anything that helped poor people in general, and I strongly suspect that even his endometriosis stance was mainly due to his opinions about abortion.

And he was proud of his views and votes when it came to abortion, immigration, welfare and homosexuality. Omitting those from his biography was to make him seem nicer to the general public, but he would definitely have been happy to have them included. He was a very religious true believer. If his religion weren't Christianity, we'd probably call him a fanatic.

I regret that he died in this way but I'm not crying for him.




No, it's not necessarily mobile, it can be a permanent building owned or rented by the local constituency party.

But it's not surprising you didn't know the meaning of the word in this specific context. Spanner is just a troll.

Did you go to school with his son who killed someone by hitting them on their head from behind with a champagne bottle?

 

[The39thStep]

Anyway as this place is likely to resemble the comments section of the Daily Mail for a while, I think I"ll take a break for a few days.

Funnily enough Insulate Britain are doing the very same

 

[scifisam]

Did you go to school with his son who killed someone by hitting them on their head from behind with a champagne bottle?

Hell no. Kids at my school would have stuck to beer bottles.

 

[little_legs]

scifisam

Just for those who are frothing at their mouths defending this piece of trash. Your man of god did everything to frame the victim. Only after the incontrovertible video evidence had emerged he knew he had to STFU.

It’s great to see how the killing of someone guilty of literally thousands of deaths of the British poor and some obscure brown people who literally no one appears to be giving a flying fuck about gets the rise out of normies.

 

[mojo pixy]

I look forward to completing more of the Prevent course....

I've done Prevent training twice, the second time was easier because I knew what to expect. There are situations in life where you know in your heart, that anything sincere you say about it will just create a disaster. So you say as little as possible, answer direct questions simply and politely whenever necessary, and generally avoid saying anything that could be considered negative, controversial or (worst), unhelpful.

Prevent training is that, hours of it. Give me a speed awareness course any day.

 

[brogdale]

Their actions suggest they don't fear enough.

 

[Elpenor]

All I’ve learned from the obituaries was that he cared more for animals than he did for a lot of humans.

 

[brogdale]

All I’ve learned from the obituaries was that he cared more for animals than he did for a lot of humans.

Pro-life.

 

[little_legs]

Their actions suggest they don't fear enough.

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oldie but apt as fuck

 

[BillRiver]

Their actions suggest they don't fear enough.

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Tell that to my MP, Diane Abbott.

 

[brogdale]

Tell that to my MP, Diane Abbott.

A fair point, but AFAIK she's never been in a governmental position of being able to legislate about anything.

 

[gosub]

Seems Cox has defended his decision to write for the sun 'because of who reads it'. Meaning he's entirely aware of exactly what kind of hatemongering shitrag it is and still took their money.

Most Sun readers start at th back of the paper

 

[gosub]

Why are people saying he's middle class? Is it the suburb that his family's council flat is located in, or the fact his dad once had a white collar job?

I don't know, what class do you think the son of a Somali Presidential spin doctor would be?

 

[platinumsage]

I don't know, what class do you think the son of a Somali Presidential spin doctor would be?

An exiled spin doctor son living in a council flat with an unknown work status? I wouldn't like to guess, but you go ahead.

 

[Pickman's model]

A fair point, but AFAIK she's never been in a governmental position of being able to legislate about anything.

There is a reason parliament is known as a legislature and MPs as legislators

 

[brogdale]

There is a reason parliament is known as a legislature and MPs as legislators

Yep; true.

 

[BillRiver]

Also true: David Amess was never a cabinet minister either.

 

[PR1Berske]

Jo Cox was murdered by a far right nationalist
David Amess was murdered by... Well, we don't yet know for certain. But angry white man he is not.


If there is a third, and let's hope there never is, they could be as far removed from these two as they are from one another.

We're humans, so we look for patterns. But there are none.

 

[CH1]

Jo Cox was murdered by a far right nationalist
David Amess was murdered by... Well, we don't yet know for certain. But angry white man he is not.


If there is a third, and let's hope there never is, they could be as far removed from these two as they are from one another.

We're humans, so we look for patterns. But there are none.

There could be a link - the self appropriated right of revenge for being slighted.

 

[extra dry]

No updates on the attackers background, facebook groups? terwter?

 

[tim]

Also true: David Amess was never a cabinet minister either.

Never any kind of minister or shadow minister, his highest office was as Portaloo's bag-carrier. A role that he held for 12 years.

 

[platinumsage]

No updates on the attackers background, facebook groups? terwter?

He worked for the NHS so lots of people applauded him.

Also, his dad was a Liverpool fan.

 

[not a trot]

Never any kind of minister or shadow minister, his highest office was as Portaloo's bag-carrier. A role that he held for 12 years.

Well Porterloo carried a lot of baggage for all those train journeys.

 

[not a trot]

No updates on the attackers background, facebook groups? terwter?

Pictures of his father are being published for some reason.

 

[Ax^]

first off "fuck off spanner when you appear like a sunday dinner wet fart at 1am"

you do have to ponder the idea of removing web anonymity and expecting facebook and the like to police it


facebook the utopia of the interwebz ,


with no racist homophobic anti vaxx holocaust deniers present even if your profile has your real name

 

[Ax^]

what we need is something like the saudi or china has a government that monitors and advise on your online activity like The Ministry of Communication and Information
in saudi or like homeland in the states


maybe we should adopt a point score for daily life like china

and make political view points restrict your job prospects, housing and the future of your family


any daft fuck wit that supports reforms to remove the hidden nature identity of individuals and whistleblowers on the interwebz

need to takea good long look at themselves

 

[CH1]

There is an interesting schedule change on BBC Four this evening.
Young Ahmed - a film about a Belgian Arab teenager who becomes radicalised and sets out to kill his school teacher was due on at 11.30 pm according to the Radio Times. They've pulled it and replaced with an astronomy programme.

They showed it before two years ago by the look of it BBC Four - Young Ahmed

Will GB News be shocked at this self censorship?
Its possible something might have been learned from this film - but will we ever be given the chance to find out?