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Tory MP David Amess Stabbed to Death 15/10/21

mojo pixy said:
I've done Prevent training twice, the second time was easier because I knew what to expect. There are situations in life where you know in your heart, that anything sincere you say about it will just create a disaster. So you say as little as possible, answer direct questions simply and politely whenever necessary, and generally avoid saying anything that could be considered negative, controversial or (worst), unhelpful.

Prevent training is that, hours of it. Give me a speed awareness course any day.
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One of the reasons I liked my last employer was something like that would be ripped into by the staff and there wouldn't be any problems. Current place feels more like walking on egg shells and it pisses me off.
 
mojo pixy said:
I've done Prevent training twice, the second time was easier because I knew what to expect. There are situations in life where you know in your heart, that anything sincere you say about it will just create a disaster. So you say as little as possible, answer direct questions simply and politely whenever necessary, and generally avoid saying anything that could be considered negative, controversial or (worst), unhelpful.

Prevent training is that, hours of it. Give me a speed awareness course any day.
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I get asked questions about prevent stuff in job interviews. The correct answer is always just make a note of who, what and where and kick it upstairs to the safeguarding person. Even though I know that, it's very difficult not to give an actual answer instead and go off on one about where am I supposed to draw the line between fascist propaganda and stuff that's on the front covers of the papers day in day out, or stuff the actual government is happy to run with as policy. How am I supposed to trust in the state to deal with this stuff when I've watched fascists attack, threaten and harass people I love and seen the police show zero interest in doing anything about it? Should I report the coppers and soldiers who come in for careers day when they're clearly trying to recruit young people into violent organisations that trample over 'British values' six times before breakfast and you're not going to give me this job are you?
 
I’ve been asked about at interviews as well which is perplexing as my job is paying people their salary, this was an interview for an NHS job and also one at a private school / charity so I expect they ask everyone the question regardless.
 
Elpenor said:
I’ve been asked about at interviews as well which is perplexing as my job is paying people their salary, this was an interview for an NHS job and also one at a private school / charity so I expect they ask everyone the question regardless.
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A question on safeguarding is compulsory in some lines of work. It is for teaching anyway.
 
Ax^ said:
nah he is clearly muslim and his da is from Somalia even work for their governement


still want to see his other motivation rather than take the Scum or the Fails word for it

HTH
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Which government? The official successor state, or Somaliland or Puntland?
 
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Ax^ said:
what we need is something like the saudi or china has a government that monitors and advise on your online activity like The Ministry of Communication and Information
in saudi or like homeland in the states


maybe we should adopt a point score for daily life like china

and make political view points restrict your job prospects, housing and the future of your family


any daft fuck wit that supports reforms to remove the hidden nature identity of individuals and whistleblowers on the interwebz

need to takea good long look at themselves
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BUT you can buy a pint , so its fine . None of this 1984 and its litres
 
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SpookyFrank said:
I get asked questions about prevent stuff in job interviews. The correct answer is always just make a note of who, what and where and kick it upstairs to the safeguarding person. Even though I know that, it's very difficult not to give an actual answer instead and go off on one about where am I supposed to draw the line between fascist propaganda and stuff that's on the front covers of the papers day in day out, or stuff the actual government is happy to run with as policy. How am I supposed to trust in the state to deal with this stuff when I've watched fascists attack, threaten and harass people I love and seen the police show zero interest in doing anything about it? Should I report the coppers and soldiers who come in for careers day when they're clearly trying to recruit young people into violent organisations that trample over 'British values' six times before breakfast and you're not going to give me this job are you?
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You should just wave a union jack and be happy, citizen.
 
elbows said:
Some of us made reference to Amess and Qatar earlier in the thread. WIll be able to make all sorts of messy, imprecise and disjointed further comments on that front now. Because al-Shabab is being mentioned in the press in relation to the attacker. And Qatar has 'complicated' relations with groups like that. And Qatar is heavily involved in Somalia and the current government regime there. And the attackers father seems to have worked for a previous president in Somalia, is not a fan of the current regime, and posted this on twitter earlier this month:



Please dont take this post as any sort of attempt to construct a credible theory out of these various fragments. It would be far too easy to join all the wrong dots and to do a silly dance with red herrings, and many of the subject areas involved are opaque at the best of times. And I dont have a lifesized cardboard Robert Anton Wilson clutching a volume of Cosmic Trigger.

The apparent family background of the attacker also means the likes of the Mail can wank on about leafy suburbs and homes worth 2 million quid.
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The Times decided to splash some fragments of the Qatar angle on its front page, although it doesnt look like they added that tweet to the mix.

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little_legs said:
Did you go to school with his son who killed someone by hitting them on their head from behind with a champagne bottle?
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little_legs said:
Just for those who are frothing at their mouths defending this piece of trash. Your man of god did everything to frame the victim. Only after the incontrovertible video evidence had emerged he knew he had to STFU.
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this is pretty shocking, both bits, so i googled a bit. is this it?

MP's son guilty of nightclub attack

A Tory MPs son was today found guilty of smashing a man over the head with a champagne bottle after an argument at a nightclub.
www.google.com www.google.com

 
elbows said:
The Times decided to splash some fragments of the Qatar angle on its front page, although it doesnt look like they added that tweet to the mix.

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His murky connections with 3rd world mad max like communities, blood diamonds, gov death squads and Tory coffee mornings. Proberbly.
 
The Telegraph reporting he wasn't specifically targeted, that Ali just considered killing any politician he could get an appointment with that day.
 
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