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Isn't it always? Irrespective of candidate or party?
i don't think it has always been so, do you? There have been people who truly believed in ideas good or bad and got themselves into power or tried to motivated by those ideas that they wanted to make happen, but that is not now.
 
i don't think it has always been so, do you? There have been people who truly believed in ideas good or bad and got themselves into power or tried to motivated by those ideas that they wanted to make happen, but that is not now.

Hasn't been so for quite a while.

As is often the case in life, I'm a HinJudChrBuddhist, every party has policies that you feel are important, no one party has them all. Trouble is, get to my age, you have seen them come, fail, go... rinse and repeat.

Perhaps political parties should be publicly funded, no external funding permitted. It would probably be a hell of a lot cheaper than the current somewhat unacceptable system. I would increase MPs salaries, but would also place an absolute bar on outside employment, bar 'pro bono'.
 
Perhaps political parties should be publicly funded, no external funding permitted. It would probably be a hell of a lot cheaper than the current somewhat unacceptable system. I would increase MPs salaries, but would also place an absolute bar on outside employment, bar 'pro bono'.
This is the Chinese Communist way, always had your cards marked. You need a large extended family to take all the plum jobs and backhanders instead.
 
I think economics has more in common with religion than science. Other than on the most basic self evident transactional trueisms. i.e. you have potatoes I'm hungry and have gold.
No. It's a complex system with all sorts of external influences. It's more akin to meteorology than religion.

That said it's boring as fuck.

I lifted my potatoes on Sunday, so am immune to price fluctuations until at least next year.
 
No. It's a complex system with all sorts of external influences. It's more akin to meteorology than religion.

That said it's boring as fuck.

I lifted my potatoes on Sunday, so am immune to price fluctuations until at least next year.
How is it boring or predictable? If it was either of those things the world would look a lot different. How much for your potatoes.
 
How is it boring or predictable? If it was either of those things the world would look a lot different. How much for your potatoes.
Only Michael Fish might claim it is predictable. I just said it's boring. My wife writes about it and it's impossible not to glaze over when she's waxing on the subject.
 
Sunak now promising to scrap VAT on domestic energy bills if he become PM.
After spending most of the year as chancellor with power to actually enact that already categorically rejecting the idea.

I do hope he steals more Labour policies. Need something to make this crap interesting as it drags on another 5 weeks.
 
No. It's a complex system with all sorts of external influences. It's more akin to meteorology than religion.

That said it's boring as fuck.

I lifted my potatoes on Sunday, so am immune to price fluctuations until at least next year.

Except when it rains, there are actual physical phenomena that can be observed, measured and predicted to an extent. When the stock exchange ralleys because Johnson has said something, it's faith.
 
Look, I have as many problems with economics as the next anti-capitalist wannabe but there’s confusion being made here between economics and finance and a lot of bashing of economics for things it left behind 30 years ago. Economics is not about predicting stock markets, although some might try to apply it to second-guess those movements. And it no longer makes simple links between macro variables, regardless of what A-level students might learn
 
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OH here we go, 2 more pages of dull as fuck beefings again.


:rolleyes:

That's the Wow show BTW, I'd actually rather talk about economics.

Tell us your view on economics wow.
 
i don't think it has always been so, do you? There have been people who truly believed in ideas good or bad and got themselves into power or tried to motivated by those ideas that they wanted to make happen, but that is not now.
Bad people do good things and vice versa. But the law of averages says the most ambitious politicians are all bad because their self interest trumps their initial benevolence.
 
Not at all, Humberto.

It's fairly combative at times, the language quite bad and 'noobs' do get a bad time sometimes because most of them do end up being suspect when they kick off on people straight away e.g. conspiracists and that whole gamut.

There isn't much actual 'bullying' beyond that. I don't know if this is personal for you or someone you know, but I think you are tilting at windmills.
 
It's fairly combative at times, the language quite bad and 'noobs' do get a bad time sometimes because most of them do end up being suspect when they kick off on people straight away e.g. conspiracists and that whole gamut.

There isn't much actual 'bullying' beyond that. I don't know if this is personal for you or someone you know, but I think you are tilting at windmills.
Thanks, Humberto. What a nice reply.
 
I’ve got a lot fewer than you. My name is “wow”.
Your name is Dan

As the tragic Spanner, you also obsessed about numbers of posts from the posters you are focusing on

It's a very poor return, you had all the time to prepare and this is your best effort?

You've not only let us all down, but you've let yourself down
 
Your name is Dan

As the tragic Spanner, you also obsessed about numbers of posts from the posters you are focusing on

It's a very poor return, you had all the time to prepare and this is your best effort?

You've not only let us all down, but you've let yourself down

Well, you certainly edited that reply after you first published it.

A bit like Pickman's model with the bully photo a few posts north.
 
Exact same m.o. and posting times

This is desperate, Dan
Let’s straighten this situation out, mate.


YOU (and others) have been accused of intimidating one or more members of this forum IN THIS THREAD.

YOUR reaction to that has been to try to harass me off the forum, presumably because you think either:
1. Wow will give up and leave,
2. Wow will get confrontational and banned,
3. Wow will figure out his place and quiet down

The trouble is — YOU
krtek a houby - YOU try to intimidate people.

That’s not MY problem. Or your VICTIMS. It’s yours.

You don’t intimidate me, mate. Also, Dan isn’t my name. So don’t keep calling me it.

Wow
 
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