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Tory Leadership contest 2022

People having been saying things like this for decades, they are a party in decline, their voters are too old, they will never be in power again.

How well have those predictions gone?
I absolutely agree with you regarding people trying to use demographics to prove a party's decline.

But the increasingly social liberal direction of society does have an impact on conservative politics. Banging on about 'wokeism' is no doubt very popular with Troy activists and members but it can turn plenty of voters off.
Like the UK Conservative Party the Australian Liberal Party is a mix of liberalism and conservatism, but its recent drift in an increasingly conservative direction backfired terribly at this years Federal election with it losing seats to liberal 'teal' independents.

And even conservatives have been affected by the liberalisation of society. For all the nasty postering about wokeism none of the candidates standing would be willing to re-implement a ban on same sex marriage, they know that such a course of action would be opposed by an overwhelming majorities of voters. Last month you had pride flags been shown everywhere from John Lewis to Travelodge.
Also (large) capital is supportive of many EDI measures, ten-fifteen years ago gender/race/disability pay gaps and decolonisation were not something really being talked about management, now there are increasingly the norm.

None of which means that there is not systematic racism, sexism, homophobia in our society. Nor that capital and liberalism are not the institutions that perpetuate such systematic discrimination. And the shit that is coming out of the Tory party on 'anti-wokeism' is harmful and dangerous, and should be resisted. But like on taxation or carbon policies much of this crap is performative, in the UK capital and workers are moving in the opposite direction.
 
When do they start thinning them out? they just seem to be increasing in number at the moment.
 
I'm hoping it will end in them tearing each other and their party apart...
I'm kind of hoping for a literal knife fight for the leadership rather than a metaphorical one but I suspect now "They've Got Brexit Done" they will probably unite behind the new leader. Surely even most Tory MP's whilst they no doubt support the general principle of tax cuts realise that the guff coming out of the current crop about tax cuts (someone was saying £330Bn on the news at lunch time but that is just plain daft) is just that guff for the forseeable.
 
When do they start thinning them out? they just seem to be increasing in number at the moment.
The expectation is that the thinning out will be from this Wednesday till the Thursday the week after, although I dont think the timetable is officially confirmed yet.

edited to add - we should find out the timetable officially today.
 
I think the 1922 Committee are meeting this afternoon to decide exactly what the rules and timetable will be.

Committee member Bob Blackwell has said they expect to have narrowed it down to two contenders by next Thursday, according to the BBC website.
 
Any Chance the 1922 commitee could come up with a "hunger games" type mechanism for choosing their next leader? Dump them all in the falklands with a shipping container full of weapons and screen it on live tv.
I'd pay good money to see that tbf.
 
People having been saying things like this for decades, they are a party in decline, their voters are too old, they will never be in power again.

How well have those predictions gone?

The last two elections were outliers because they rallied around brexit passions and before that they could only win against a delipidated Labour Party at the fag end of the New Labour years. As renters get older the tory property owning base gets thinner and the lack of ideas reflects a lack of a willingness to rebuild a younger base.
 
The last two elections were outliers because they rallied around brexit passions and before that they could only win against a delipidated Labour Party at the fag end of the New Labour years. As renters get older the tory property owning base gets thinner and the lack of ideas reflects a lack of a willingness to rebuild a younger base.

But then equally the Labour party are a bunch of pointless centrists with no ideas at all beyond sticking an inch to the left of the Tories and not rocking the boat, who've totally blown their presence in Scotland and who are actively fucking off what led to their own strong vote amongst younger people.

And yet ultimately neither of them are going anywhere.
 
I've just googled the Tory party membership which currently stands at about 200,000 apparently membership fee is £25 but under £15 for ex-Forces. It is however £5 for under 26's so I suspect membership tends to be towards the older range
I have just asked my 20 year old if she would consider that a bargain.
She didn't give me a direct answer but I will take "Sod Off Dad" as probably a negative.
 
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Another one putting their finger right on the pulse of what people are really concerned about right now. The right to be a cunt on the internet.
Badenoch is well known for hideous culture wars rhetoric so this sort of thing was exactly what was expected from them, expected to be part of their central message. As opposed to some of the other candidates who are only making noises about that stuff in oder to deflect criticism that they are too woke, and as part of attempts to hoover up support from culture wars scum side of the party.
 
I think the 1922 Committee are meeting this afternoon to decide exactly what the rules and timetable will be.

Committee member Bob Blackwell has said they expect to have narrowed it down to two contenders by next Thursday, according to the BBC website.

‘Two MPs enter. ONE MP leaves!!’
 
I've just googled the Tory party membership which currently stands at about 200,000 apparently membership fee is £25 but under £15 for ex-Forces. It is however £5 for under 26's and over so I suspect membership tends to be towards the older range
I have just asked my 20 year old if she would consider that a bargain.
She didn't give me a direct answer but I will take "Sod Off Dad" as probably a negative.
Encouraging Urban75 entryism ? :D:p
 
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