Toriers & Lib Dems, deal by Monday morning?

[cesare]

Sounds like they're meeting to agree to the deal with the tories we were assured was impossible. Would lead to mass resignations of membership and MPs. That must 100% include PR et fucking cetera.

That's the one

 

[cesare]

Apparently the bags weren't the Darlings' either. They were police belongings

 

[1%er]

Tory MP's have been told there will be a meeting at 8PM

Looks like the deal is done the next goverment will be a CON-DEM Government Good name

 

[Diamond]

Ooh. I've been busy the last couple of hours. Looks like things are coming on in leaps and bounds.

My reckoning is that we'll have a Tory minority government before midnight because the the Lib Dems won't be able to get a Con-Lib coalition past through their triple lock system.

Could well be wrong though.

 

[belboid]

Those cities are now in Scoptland?

we'll be putting the request in writing in the morning

 

[danny la rouge]

Apparently the bags weren't the Darlings' either. They were police belongings

Cameron isn't getting police in No. 10? Good.

 

[cesare]

Cameron isn't getting police in No. 10? Good.

Excellent news!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Ref on AV pr, 6 cabinet positions with Nick Clegg as Dep Leader is the current rumour on the deal...

 

[Diamond]

Ref on AV pr, 6 cabinet positions with Nick Clegg as Dep Leader is the current rumour on the deal...

Ref with both AV and PR on the table?

 

[Belushi]

6 Cabinet Posts sounds like a lot to me.

 

[butchersapron]

That's total london bollockery.

 

[danny la rouge]

6 Cabinet Posts sounds like a lot to me.

A lot of people attend Cabinet. Not all as Secretaries of State.

 

[Diamond]

6 Cabinet Posts sounds like a lot to me.

True, the right-wing of the Tory party would go nuts unless the remaining members of the cabinet were basically fascists.

 

[marty21]

6 Cabinet Posts sounds like a lot to me.

it does, I thought they'd maybe give 2, Envorinment and Culture, something the tories don't find that important

Clegg could retain some independence if he got a couple of Lib Dem lords in, Steele and Ashdown, rather than dirty himself anymore than he has already done

 

[maldwyn]

Has Brown just quit?

 

[free spirit]

Sounds like they're meeting to agree to the deal with the tories we were assured was impossible. That the mere suggestion of would lead to immediate mass resignations of both membership and MPs. That must 100% include PR et fucking cetera.

if the labour party are going to take their ball home with them and refuse to play with the lib dems, then that puts a majorly different spin on things.

all the lib dems refusing to work with the tories or allow them to form a minority government would do would be to force an immediate new election at which the tories would almost certainly get a full majority probably at the expense of both labour and lib dems being as they've now shown they can't actually work together in coalition.

 

[magneze]

Clegg's negotiating notes with the Tories: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/interactive/2010/may/11/election-2010-coalition-nick-clegg

 

[Belushi]

if the labour party are going to take their ball home with them and refuse to play with the lib dems, then that puts a majorly different spin on things.

all the lib dems refusing to work with the tories or allow them to form a minority government would do would be to force an immediate new election at which the tories would almost certainly get a full majority probably at the expense of both labour and lib dems being as they've now shown they can't actually work together in coalition.

You're not going to be able to spin this one. Come the next election the Lib-Dems are toast.

 

[killer b]

if the labour party are going to take their ball home with them and refuse to play with the lib dems, then that puts a majorly different spin on things.

yep, spin is definitely the operative word here.

 

[elbows]

if the labour party are going to take their ball home with them and refuse to play with the lib dems, then that puts a majorly different spin on things.

Spin being the appropriate word. Face-saving bollocks. Deluded lib dems already justifying their pact with the Tories, a pact that was almost inevitable from the time the results came in, never mind yesterdays political theatre.

 

[magneze]

Interesting - one of the items is "Fixed Term Parliaments". The notion being that a minority government could govern for 4 fixed years without being taken down.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

You're not going to be able to spin this one. Come the next election the Lib-Dems are toast.

(As of now, anyway) I'll still vote for them

 

[danny la rouge]

Has Brown just quit?

No.

 

[butchersapron]

if the labour party are going to take their ball home with them and refuse to play with the lib dems, then that puts a majorly different spin on things.

all the lib dems refusing to work with the tories or allow them to form a minority government would do would be to force an immediate new election at which the tories would almost certainly get a full majority probably at the expense of both labour and lib dems being as they've now shown they can't actually work together in coalition.

Oh right, we've principles but only now and then. You've spent days arguing the deal which now appears to be going through was utterly fantastical and impossible. You've backtracked and backtracked, even yesterday you were saying a deal that only had AV instead of PR was impossible. You been shown to have no actual grasp of the dynamics at play here and more than a little naive frankly. I think you should have a look at yourself and stop expending energy on the defence of a tory govt.

Why would the tories almost certainly get an absolute majority in a second election? I think the exact opposite is far more likely to happen and a proper anti-tory majority would emerge more strongly - even under PR. Of course, the real calculation that's been made here is that lib-dems have been exposed over the last week and would end up losing seats - that this would be an anti-tory majority dominated by labour. Welcome to the new politics.

 

[maldwyn]

No.

Thanks for that. That's reassuring. Someone told me not only has he stood down as PM but he was also about to announce he has given up party leadership.

 

[danny la rouge]

Thanks for that. That's reassuring. Someone told me not only has he stood down as PM but he was also about to announce he has given up party leadership.

He announced yesterday that he'll give up Labour leadership before the partyconference. He has yet to concede the Premiership, but will do so shortly, as the LibLab deal has fallen.

 

[1%er]

Thanks for that. That's reassuring. Someone told me not only has he stood down as PM but he was also about to announce he has given up party leadership.

It is being reported he will resign tonight as PM

 

[Stibs]

Ref on AV pr, 6 cabinet positions with Nick Clegg as Dep Leader is the current rumour on the deal...

Can't wait to see Simon Hughes, Ming Campbell and Shirley Williams sell this.

Didn't they say that this election would reallign the left? Its certainly going to do that.

 

[danny la rouge]

It is being reported he will resign tonight as PM

Incorrectly. He'll concede shortly, perhaps tonight.

 

[Santino]

We've still got time for a Lib-Con coalition to fail to materialise, the Libs to refuse to approve a miniority Tory government and instead agree to enter into a confidence and supply arrangement with Labour.

And that's just this evening.