The Virgin Mary

[bcuster]

 

[krtek a houby]

And what do you think?

 

[bcuster]

He’s either God or he’s a bad man..
I love it , simple and true
I think everyone should ask that to themselves and like Bishop Bob said make your decision .

 

[Santino]

He’s either God or he’s a bad man..
I love it , simple and true
I think everyone should ask that to themselves and like Bishop Bob said make your decision .

He could be mistaken, or his words misrepresented.

 

[Elpenor]

My incredibly devout Catholic mate posted a great bonkers Virgin Mary meme the other day, I meant to nick it to share here but it's gone now. Nevermind. Has everyone managed to reach agreement about Mary now then?

Opinions are still quite contrary

 

[bcuster]

He could be mistaken, or his words misrepresented.

This is old, but on point

Mad or God? A senior psychiatrist on the mental health of Jesus

Have you ever heard anyone impatiently dismiss Jesus and all he said and did with 'of course, he was mad or at least seriously mentally disturbed'?

www.christiantoday.com

...convinced that Jesus had the healthiest mind, but also attracted by his glorious character.

 

[Santino]

This is old, but on point

Mad or God? A senior psychiatrist on the mental health of Jesus

Have you ever heard anyone impatiently dismiss Jesus and all he said and did with 'of course, he was mad or at least seriously mentally disturbed'?

www.christiantoday.com

...convinced that Jesus had the healthiest mind, but also attracted by his glorious character.

It's more likely that he was mad, misunderstood, misrepresented or bad than that he was the incarnation of the fundamental principle of all creation, a fully human being that is also an omnipotent timeless deity, two separate natures in one person, who sentences himself to a painful death to redeem a punishment that he himself ordered.

 

[Knotted]

I doubt very much that Jesus would recognise the teachings of his immediate followers after his death, nevermind Paul or the Gospel writers nevermind the proto orthodox nevermind the modern Catholic Church.

He was probably an apocalyptic Jewish rabbi who thought the end was near. And if he thought that he was wrong because it wasn't.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I doubt very much that Jesus would recognise the teachings of his immediate followers after his death, nevermind Paul or the Gospel writers nevermind the proto orthodox nevermind the modern Catholic Church.

He was probably an apocalyptic Jewish rabbi who thought the end was near. And if he thought that he was wrong because it wasn't.

Yes, he said that the end would be coming within the lifetime of his disciples.
Just one of his mistakes.

 

[Orang Utan]

He’s either God or he’s a bad man..
I love it , simple and true
I think everyone should ask that to themselves and like Bishop Bob said make your decision .

Is there no room for nuance?

 

[Orang Utan]

Could he have been a charismatic bullshitter with complicated motives, some of them righteous and some self-serving?
You know, a human being?

 

[ouirdeaux]

There's really no way of knowing what the historical Jesus believed.

Going by the evidence -- which is dubious enough -- it seems likely that there was someone charismatic whose take on Jewish law was more liberal than that prevailing in his time. And he was punished for this.

Whether anything he's supposed to have said or done actually took place is as likely as any rumour.