The Scottish independence referendum polling thread

[DotCommunist]

I like how its only recently that the unionists have decided to roll out 'I fucking love scotland, I really do. proper love it. Like my mum and peas'

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't love "Scotland". That's a meaningless piece of mawkish tawdry gobshite.

But I am surprised by the implication that I don't love my family if I vote Yes.

 

[Belushi]

I bet all those families are hard working.

 

[Casually Red]

Has this man fallen off a tin of fucking shortbread ...or what ? Hes like some yank tourist gone mad at Edinburgh castle or something.

 

[Dogsauce]

If you thought that ad wasn't bizarre enough, here's their new poster campaign

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Is that Andy Coulson on the right?

 

[weepiper]

Twitter photoshoppers have been busy already

 

[ddraig]

that middle one is genius!

 

[Quartz]

Twitter photoshoppers have been busy already

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For some people, retaining Trident is a very good reason to vote No.

 

[equationgirl]

you clearly don't have single and childless people in scotland

We do, but their opinions are obviously worthless. Good little Tory breeders, that's what we need.

Clearly my flat became an independent republic overnight and my vote became worthless. Good to know, isn't it, that the government only values the nuclear family option and wants to ignore anyone who doesn't fit that mould.

 

[Casually Red]

For some people, retaining Trident is a very good reason to vote No.

is that a brand of hoover or cereal ?

 

[Casually Red]

actually feel sorry for that one... getting hit with tumbleweeds the whole day is no fun at all

 

[scifisam]

Tangential question: my mother always indentified as Scottish despite being born in the East End of London. Her parents were of the generation where you might move to England, but you never really left Scotland; they mixed with mostly scottish people. Their accents were so strong that I had to be an interpreter for my grandad in his later life.

If there's a yes vote, I'm still half Scottish, right?

 

[weepiper]

actually feel sorry for that one... getting hit with tumbleweeds the whole day is no fun at all

Yes East Lothian went to the local Sunday Market and got 247 people to pose with a Yes sign.

 

[weepiper]

Tangential question: my mother always indentified as Scottish despite being born in the East End of London. Her parents were of the generation where you might move to England, but you never really left Scotland; they mixed with mostly scottish people. Their accents were so strong that I had to be an interpreter for my grandad in his later life.

If there's a yes vote, I'm still half Scottish, right?

Sure. Just like I'll still be half English

 

[Casually Red]

thats it..im convinced the No campaign is actually a Whitehall ploy to throw the scots out..theyre trying to lose this

wtf ???? where the hell did they find hm ??? and whats he even on about ??




seriously not fair..we got the black and tans ..partition..plastic bullets SAS and all sorts. Flipping scots get sausage roll boy

 

[slainte]

Hmm as Bill Hicks would have said....we aren't losing the cure for cancer there..are we...

 

[danny la rouge]

 

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Twitter photoshoppers have been busy already

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major problem, is when you vote yes, we get trident. or rather Plymouth gets the subs and the nukes get shunted into falmouth harbour.

did the tories want to see cornwall's campaigns for devolution given a huge boost? because this shit will unite cornwall. not only those of us who live here, but also the illegal second home voters (illegal, cause the bastards are plural voting) who will worry about loosing value when this shit fucks the industry that 1/4 of people here are employed by.

these cunts specialise in own goals

 

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own goals to the point i sometimes wonder who the secret entryists into the tories is and how far they've got up the food chain

 

[geminisnake]

actually feel sorry for that one... getting hit with tumbleweeds the whole day is no fun at all

She is a Dundee Labour councillor and a particularly obnoxious one at that. She has been highly abusive to anyone who hasn't asked the 'right' questions, though how one knows what the right ones are I don't know.

 

[danny la rouge]

If there's a yes vote, I'm still half Scottish, right?

No, the referendum result will alter your genealogy.

(Actually, you'd automatically be a Scottish citizen, if you wanted).

 

[Quartz]

own goals to the point i sometimes wonder who the secret entryists into the tories is and how far they've got up the food chain

The SNP will be the natural harbour for the Tories as the SNP seeks to differentiate itself from Labour as a party of government. After all, many Tories are heading for that other nationalist party, UKIP.

 

[danny la rouge]

The SNP will be the natural harbour for the Tories as the SNP seeks to differentiate itself from Labour as a party of government. After all, many Tories are heading for that other nationalist party, UKIP.

Sorry, Quartz, but this is nonsense.

 

[Casually Red]

I love all these lefties in support of raising new borders between the working classes. If anyone is in doubt of the idiocy of leftists jumping on the Yes bandwagon, they should have a read at what full time ball bag Billy Bragg wrote about it.

do shut up . Your pining for unicorns and one world my little ponies is a puerile irrelevancy. Theres basically zero opposition to neo liberalism in Westminster and similarly negligible support for it in Scotland. Nothing will change under the status quo ...absolutely nothing. An independent scotland will have a real left alternative to the SNP as an opposition..while the SNP themselves despite a lot of faults arent dyed in the wool neo liberals like labour . The neo liberals win in Britain because whether labour or tory theyve convinced people theres no alternative..that leftism is loony.

An independent scotland has a real opportunity to show there is an alternative to neo liberalism and it works. Thats something the working class in england need to see as well in order to start believing it again. Even to see and hear a vibrant left opposition openly articulating a socialist alternative just up the road from them . That has ten times more chance of galvanising them to seek real social change than your one world ballsology . Which is just a smokescreen for old fashioned unionism anyway .

Plus itll finish the scum labour party off for good ..that has the chance to change englsh poltcs for the better...an entire neo liberal political class...an entrenched mafia will have been upended . its long term effect on the loyal brethren over here will be interesting to see too .

itll be every bit as good for the English working class as the scots. And that way they can end up with a lot more in common than a dopey union jack .

 

[DexterTCN]

thats it..im convinced the No campaign is actually a Whitehall ploy to throw the scots out..theyre trying to lose this

wtf ???? where the hell did they find hm ??? and whats he even on about ??




seriously not fair..we got the black and tans ..partition..plastic bullets SAS and all sorts. Flipping scots get sausage roll boy

 

[geminisnake]

The SNP will be the natural harbour for the Tories as the SNP seeks to differentiate itself from Labour as a party of government. After all, many Tories are heading for that other nationalist party, UKIP.

Are you aware that the SNP is the Scottish NATIONAL party, NOT the Scottish Nationalist party?? Many people from the south don't seem to be able to grasp this.
There is a difference.

 

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actualy, i'm tempted to write that up without the fucking and shitting and send it to one of my mates who is involved in The Celtic League for them to publish

and done

 

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Are you aware that the SNP is the Scottish NATIONAL party, NOT the Scottish Nationalist party?? Many people from the south don't seem to be able to grasp this.
There is a difference.

Absolutely.

I know a fair few of the major figures in MK and words do not suffice in expressing how much contempt they have for UKIP.

 

[Quartz]

Are you aware that the SNP is the Scottish NATIONAL party, NOT the Scottish Nationalist party?? Many people from the south don't seem to be able to grasp this.
There is a difference.

I'm fully aware of the difference, thank you. But politics tends to split into two major groupings. One right of centre and one left of centre. We see that in Westminster, Washington, etc. So, after independence, where are Tory voters going to go? Going alone will be courting oblivion even more than now. The SNP is the obvious choice, because it's Not Labour. But the SNP will have to woo them; it won't be able to take their votes for granted. And in the fullness of time, those ex-Tories will change it as they rise up the ranks.

 

[Dogsauce]

Do we all have to pretend that Alex Salmond's gobbling of Donald Trump's cock didn't happen? I wouldn't be too hopeful of a post-independence socialist utopia.