The weird investigation into the Legacy Independent Funeral Directors, Hull

[DaveCinzano]

At a time of fast-rising fuel costs etc

 

[Magnus McGinty]

As has been said, it must be cheaper to cremate than to store bodies. Or have a serious fly infestation.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I would have thought onsite cremation would be unlikely as it would be noticed pretty quickly of they were just slinging them on a bonfire out back.

Their industrial storage unit does have a flue.



If, and it's only wild speculation, they were doing their own cremations, I wouldn't expect them to do it at their premises, but have a furnace at some more remote location.

 

[emanymton]

This woman is saying she never got her father ashes.
Weirdly the police are asking if he had any identifying tattoos .

Daughter 'wants answers' after Hull funeral home investigation

Billie-Jo Suffill says she never received her dad's ashes from Legacy Independent Funeral Directors

www.bbc.co.uk

Not weird if they think he was never cremated and they might now have his body in a freezer.

 

[WouldBe]

If they didn't cremate them then what did they do with them?

This woman is saying she never got her father ashes.
Weirdly the police are asking if he had any identifying tattoos .

Probably didn't cremate the bodies hence 'preventing lawful burial.' and that's why there's bodies lying about the place.

 

[pesh]

South Yorkshire Police's Major Incident Unit is an impressive beast

 

[WouldBe]

As has been said, it must be cheaper to cremate than to store bodies. Or have a serious fly infestation.

Aren't they kept in cold storage just for that reason?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Aren't they kept in cold storage just for that reason?

Which is cheaper than cremation, given the latter has to happen at some point anyway?

 

[DaveCinzano]

As has been said, it must be cheaper to cremate than to store bodies. Or have a serious fly infestation.

I was more thinking of a sideline in Lindow Man briquettes

 

[Silas Loom]

No business owner has ever made terrible or criminal decisions to solve an immediate cash flow issue or to avoid a bill.

Cash flow makes sense. My dad was cremated a week ago and we had absolutely no contact with the crematorium at all, just the funeral director, as the service was at a church and the cremation was unattended. So if that’s reasonably common, it’s a plausible way for a funeral director to build up £1k each time while waiting for a loan or whatever to come good. And presumably they’d intend to get the bodies properly cremated at some point with the appropriate paperwork.

 

[quimcunx]

As has been said, it must be cheaper to cremate than to store bodies. Or have a serious fly infestation.

As a long term solution I agree. As a short term clusterfuck it would be cheaper!

 

[Magnus McGinty]

As a long term solution I agree. As a short term clusterfuck it would be cheaper!

Fair point. If they have a cash flow problem. It’s a false economy though.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Cash flow makes sense. My dad was cremated a week ago and we had absolutely no contact with the crematorium at all, just the funeral director, as the service was at a church and the cremation was unattended. So if that’s reasonably common, it’s a plausible way for a funeral director to build up £1k each time while waiting for a loan or whatever to come good. And presumably they’d intend to get the bodies properly cremated at some point with the appropriate paperwork.

This lot have their own chapel, we had mother's service in the local FD's own chapel last year, they then took her to a private crematorium in Brighton a few days later, saving us about £300 compared to the rip-off council run crematorium in Worthing, that money went to charity.

However, I had to obtain a 'green form'* from the registry office, to give to the funeral directors, which grants permission for a body to be buried or cremated, and that's dated, so I assume eyebrows would be raised if that wasn't used at a crematorium within days of issue.

* This is normally sent direct by the registry office to the FDs, but we only had a couple days until the service, as it was fitted in very quickly, before my brother was setting off on holiday.

 

[RevolutionSound]

Not weird if they think he was never cremated and they might now have his body in a freezer.

 

[moochedit]

Probably didn't cremate the bodies hence 'preventing lawful burial.' and that's why there's bodies lying about the place.

Yeah but they are going to rot/smell/take up space (which isn't unlimited). It doesn't make sense but i'm sure it'll become clearer eventually.

 

[Monte]

There isn't a pie shop next door is there?

 

[WouldBe]

There isn't a pie shop next door is there?

Or a glue factory.

 

[Silas Loom]

There isn't a pie shop next door is there?

MOT garage, as per the pic. Might be cheap for getting seats reupholstered in soft leather.

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[pinkmonkey]

The owner was also selling stuff on Facebook marketplace, out of the actual mortuary, such as this landy, I believe thats the morgue walk in chiller behind it.

 

[pinkmonkey]

Points to serious financial difficulties flogging your sports bikes and associated crap, mostly from your premises and then possibly pretending to send bodies for cremation whilst pocketing the cash.

 

[WouldBe]

I believe thats the morgue walk in chiller behind it.

Good luck getting the dead to walk into the chiller.

 

[pinkmonkey]

Good luck getting the dead to walk into the chiller.

Hmm I think they might go on that trolley that’s propping the bike up.

 

[Lurdan]

There isn't a pie shop next door is there?

Award-winning The Hull Pie Bakery is only about three miles away.

 

[newme]

My step brother is a funeral director, even did my dads funeral, well and a bunch of people they both knew. My dad did 'removals' if there was a lack of available people. Step brother wins local awards, inherited business(ish) but he runs it way better. Spent 10 years coked up to the gills then kinda got screwed over as he doesn't own the place as discussed when running everything for I think 20 years. His grand dad now just turns up and tries to take money out the til, this does not go down well, then he ends up out the cost cos otherwise its fraud and the guy has dementia with clarity he utilises well for his own benefit.

Dude has gone well for himself but always was selling services people wanted more than needed, but still needed. Coke and pills then dead body services, don't have much choice in general and its pricey per hour rate. Idk what he earns but it gets him at least 4 foreign golfing holidays a year with 3-4 kids in tow and his wife, who I was introduced to when I had to leave the 'afterparty' cos they were off to the back room and we only ended up there since he didn't find anyone else. Her younger sister appeared to be interested but that was too weird for me (age appropriate and both over 18). Walked home and never thought about it til now. Hi Nat if this makes any sense to you lol, hope you did ok.

Good luck getting the dead to walk into the chiller.

Lettuce doesn't put up much of a fight.

 

[Monte]

Award-winning The Hull Pie Bakery is only about three miles away.

''secret's in the sauce''

 

[ruffneck23]

Sorry, not sure how I quoted you, I was replying to moochedit, basically pointing out they were cremated.

What I found odd was them saying they removed a “quantity” of suspected human ashes, which implies a lot, whereas from my experience ashes are normally available to collect in a day or two, they don't tend to have loads knocking about the place.

They could have been saving on crematorium fees, by doubling-up bodies, but I would expect the crematorium staff would notice that fairly quickly. Hence my very wild speculation that they could have been carrying out their own 'in house' cremations.

Last week I picked up my mums ashes 13 years to the day she died, which might seem weird, but my brother and I couldnt face it, as it made everything real after the way she died. Undertakers do keep them.

 

[moochedit]

Hmm I think they might go on that trolley that’s propping the bike up.

Well that's just bloody lazy of them

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Lettuce doesn't put up much of a fight.

Lettuce not even go there.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Hmm I think they might go on that trolley that’s propping the bike up.

They don't call them a ‘trolley’ in this industry; it's ‘a gurney off a lifetime’