The Scottish independence referendum polling thread
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I'm pretty sure some twat like Marcus Brigstock got there ahead of you with that one
Just so long as some of them are in Whitehall, that's fine
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The previous ones for ICM had either:
1) YES 54%/ NO 46% (online for telegraph) - which would make tonights a 10% swing to NO
or
2) Yes 49/No 51 (phone) which shows a 2% move to NO.
If tonights was online as DQ said then it's the first one we have to compare. Either way there was a move away from YES not a move towards YES in the ICM results - a small one or a large one.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I'm comparing with the last ICM poll for the Scotsman (who commissioned this one)
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...pendence-poll-icm-puts-yes-up-to-48-1-3543614
DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
Butchers... the last online one shows a 3% swing to YES.
iamwithnail
Well-Known Member
Cheers, that's super handy.
I have to admit I'm looking forward to seeing so many disappointed nationalists, Scot or English. `Ooh my poor flag/tree/hill/coin/bit of ground, boo hoo.`
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Nope, I don't think it will be a healthy result for whoever wins. Whoever wins, almost half the electorate will have disagreed, that can't be healthy.
iamwithnail
Well-Known Member
I was chatting to one of the No guys about this on Twitter earlier. Most of the people I've seen out campaigning for Yes (and he says, No side is the same ) are people who've never been involved in politics in any kind of way beyond voting - not door rattling or leafletting, nothing. One of my friends is entirely sceptical of elections, their value, etc, votes anyway - he designed and printed 5000 booklets on 'What about Yes?' to try and sway undecideds - going out, asking people on the street if they'd decided, and just going after the people that hadn't made up their minds. It looks far more like grassroots than anything i've seen in recent years - yeah, there'll be the usual astroturfing but this on both sides seems like some actual genuine engagement. In spite of the bitterness and bile that's come out on both sides occasionally, I'm choosing to be heartened by that aspect.
not-bono-ever
meh
Could be tricky when the Corby oblast is formed.
I don't know why but I'm finding it all quite irritating. All the politicians make me feel a bit ill, all the flag waving, silly people shouting at each other in the street, multiple crystal ball gazing about tax/pensions/oil/currencies...yeah whatever.
Newsnight: last UK election in Scotland - SNP 490,000 votes, Tories 420,000 votes.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
Coolfonz - I just think those are pretty depressing posts. If you're not interested in politics, fine. I will never see the establishment (and maybe even globally) in this country so shaken. Quite frankly, a yes vote would be a massive force of good across Britain. Plenty of groups on Yes that I have seen campaign without saltires. For you to equate the nationalism of the Yes campaign and the very real nationalism of Westminster (that results in war) is just depressing. If you can't even bring yourself to support the Scottish left (SYRIZA have), I have no idea what people will do in the future to give you any hope that we will see a politically conscious proletariat (i.e, poor people taking to the streets and discussing pensions, benefits, corporate power). A no vote will return to the status quo, where we celebrate the odd strike in London that we hear about on libcom.
Scotland's Kaliningrad
About time too, they need some decent architecture up those ways:
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Has this programme be posted here already? First 9 mins on why the polls are at sea over the independence referendum.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gcfml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gcfml
Any chance of a precis? Am at work and they don't like streaming media
How about something like 51.6% in favour? Would that be unhealthy?
OK, I'm suppose I'm being snide, and I will stop.
I'm remembering a vote of 51.6% in favour of devolution in 1979 and we did not get it, but, you know, there were no bombs and shooting and stuff, if that's what you mean by "unhealthy".
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
5t3IIa
Registered User
Woman who is going to actually announce Yes or No on Today!
4.285 million regged 97% of population. Expected turn out 80%+!
She wants a nice steady count process from 2100. Opening, then splitting into y/n.
Timing - she expects breakfast time for results 0600ish Friday.
Depends on getting boxes. Some coming fromIreland (?) the Islands
Never had probs with queues for elections before so hopes none.
Counting officers consider it a privilege.
Mary Pitcaithly (sp)
Edit: opening postal votes already (?) and keeping them face down.
4.285 million regged 97% of population. Expected turn out 80%+!
She wants a nice steady count process from 2100. Opening, then splitting into y/n.
Timing - she expects breakfast time for results 0600ish Friday.
Depends on getting boxes. Some coming from
Never had probs with queues for elections before so hopes none.
Counting officers consider it a privilege.
Mary Pitcaithly (sp)
Edit: opening postal votes already (?) and keeping them face down.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Got you now.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Early reports i've heard from postal ballots seem baffled at only a 70-75% return rate. Maybe that it's undecideds who have opted to go the take it to the polling station route.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
are you allowed to do that? I thought if you got a postal, you had to use it or lose it
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If you take it to the station or the returning officer at the council on the day then it counts. Well, that's how it works for GEs anyway. So yes, use it or lose it, but you can use it at the station.
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