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The Nazis - left wing or right wing?

editor said:
Trolls get banned around here. It's in the FAQ.
I've just read this thread the whole way through. you know I have a problem with the little shlemiel, but he really HAS to go for this. I'm utterly, utterly horrified. thank you for picking up on it.
 
Red Jezza said:
I've just read this thread the whole way through. you know I have a problem with the little shlemiel, but he really HAS to go for this. I'm utterly, utterly horrified. thank you for picking up on it.


I would have thought that the vast majority opf people on the boards who have read this thread would now have a problem with him, whether they did before or not.

It can be nice having a right winger about, commedy value, see what arguements they use, hone your own ideas etc, but this sort of comment should be beyond what these boards allow. he's effectively, spredding the sort of propeganda that the Nazi party used to justify their descrimination, segregation and then slaughter.
 
Barking_Mad said:
Well he won't find many converts, so he's wasting his time.
true - but he'll never, ever realise that. not just cos he's an idiot, but because his cultural background precludes this from ever happening. The mindset of the US conservative right creates drones who cannot break free from seeing things like what pbman does here as their holy mission.

also; he ain't even after converts - we are The Enemy, remember. His mission is to populate as much of cyberspace as possible with rightwing propaganda, by whatever means possible.
 
Red Jezza said:
also; he ain't even after converts - we are The Enemy, remember. His mission is to populate as much of cyberspace as possible with rightwing propaganda, by whatever means possible.

Rightwing propeganda is bearable, but spreading Nazi propeganda like he has here is something very different.
 
toggle said:
Rightwing propeganda is bearable, but spreading Nazi propeganda like he has here is something very different.
yup. totally (notwithstanding the hon. panda's point of order ;). fortunately I'm seeing him tomorrow
 
pbman said:
By being bloodthirst murdering commies, who scared the people in german/europe into suporting hitler, by killing tnes of millions.

Lots of people supported the Nazi's knowing what a-hles they were, cause they feared the commies more.

Its called being "between a rock and a hardspace."

Thats basic high school history btw, i'm surprised you don't know it.

You really are a neo-Nazi, aren't you?

"Basic high school history" eh? Like the Mexicans were the aggressors in the Mexican-American Wars you mean. :rolleyes:
 
ViolentPanda said:
point of order:

Neo-nazi rather than Nazi propaganda.


I'll bow to your superior knowlege. :)

My point was that pbman seems to have fallen for the 'blame the jews' thing hook line and sinker. The exact origins of the shite he is spreading here is not something that i particularly want to study, my stomach isn't really strong enough. What remains is that it should be unacceptable.

I have seen posters banned for considerably less. While i don't want to go into a slag the mods fest here, I think that they have made the wrong call in not banning him for the views he has expressed in this thread. Should i see similar sentiments from pbman in the future, I will be hitting the report button and i would urge other posters that are as unhappy as me with these views to do likewise.
 
toggle said:
I'll bow to your superior knowlege. :)

My point was that pbman seems to have fallen for the 'blame the jews' thing hook line and sinker. The exact origins of the shite he is spreading here is not something that i particularly want to study, my stomach isn't really strong enough. What remains is that it should be unacceptable.
I operate under the principle of "know thine enemy". :)
I have seen posters banned for considerably less. While i don't want to go into a slag the mods fest here, I think that they have made the wrong call in not banning him for the views he has expressed in this thread. Should i see similar sentiments from pbman in the future, I will be hitting the report button and i would urge other posters that are as unhappy as me with these views to do likewise.
I agree with what you're saying. Out and out revisionist anti-Semitism (to use a much-abused term) of that ilk, along with proponents of it, should be dealt with strictly.
 
nino_savatte said:
You really are a neo-Nazi, aren't you?

"Basic high school history" eh? Like the Mexicans were the aggressors in the Mexican-American Wars you mean. :rolleyes:

"Basic high school history" if you were brought up in a Klan or Aryan Nations enclave perhaps.
 
butchersapron said:
Ah, but he's so polite. Never mind the naked racism and far-right bollocks expressed in the quoted post. At least he's not rude.
Not to mention the dozens of threads this prick deliberatly fouls up and destroys any chance of decent debate.
...and thats probably the one thing that depresses me more than anything about urban. An unamed Mod has on several occasions defended pee against people abusing him....and I cannot for the fucken life of me figure out why.
 
ViolentPanda said:
"Basic high school history" if you were brought up in a Klan or Aryan Nations enclave perhaps.

He really has revealed his true colours - though to be honest, I thought I'd spotted this streak in him ages ago. No sign of the Canuck to defend him. Maybe even he realises it's a lost cause.
 
Wess said:
Not to mention the dozens of threads this prick deliberatly fouls up and destroys any chance of decent debate.
...and thats probably the one thing that depresses me more than anything about urban. An unamed Mod has on several occasions defended pee against people abusing him....and I cannot for the fucken life of me figure out why.

Pretty much for the reason butchersapron was waxing ironic about, mate: Peebs is "polite" and is apparently "more sinned against than sinning".
I'm afraid some people mistake frontier-type courtesy (the sort where you're polite so some knob-head doesn't shoot you) with real manners and politeness.
 
nino_savatte said:
He really has revealed his true colours - though to be honest, I thought I'd spotted this streak in him ages ago. No sign of the Canuck to defend him. Maybe even he realises it's a lost cause.

No sign of peebs either. Probably fucked off on a convenient "hunting trip" and will re-materialise when he thinks this has all blown over.
 
ViolentPanda said:
No sign of peebs either. Probably fucked off on a convenient "hunting trip" and will re-materialise when he thinks this has all blown over.

Let's hope there's some sort of accident. It happens on hunts. :D
 
ViolentPanda said:
No sign of peebs either. Probably fucked off on a convenient "hunting trip" and will re-materialise when he thinks this has all blown over.


That's typical though, spread a whole load of shite, then run away until it's died down and the thread has died, refuse to comment again on that thread, then rely on board rules against 'stalking' someone accross the boards to refuse to deal with the stink generated by a his shite.
 
toggle said:
That's typical though, spread a whole load of shite, then run away until it's died down and the thread has died, refuse to comment again on that thread, then rely on board rules against 'stalking' someone accross the boards to refuse to deal with the stink generated by a his shite.

Yep, not just with pbman either, the "seagull" technique (shit on you then fly away) has been used by quite a few rightists on this board (mears and Rachamim18 spring to mind as having regularly used the tactic).
 
right - action. I am seeing mike tonight (curry). I am going to try to corner him for a word about this. I'd like everyone and anyone reading this to comment HERE on whether they think pbman shoudl be banned or not, for his postings on this thread.
ETA; sooner rather than later would help.
 
You know my feelings about the leadheaded one already, Jezza. Ban him and ban him hard!!!!

JC2's going to be lost without his pet monkey. :D
 
Red Jezza said:
right - action. I am seeing mike tonight (curry). I am going to try to corner him for a word about this. I'd like everyone and anyone reading this to comment HERE on whether they think pbman shoudl be banned or not, for his postings on this thread.
ETA; sooner rather than later would help.


I think I've already made my feelings clear on this. He has crossed the line and should go.
 
Red Jezza said:
right - action. I am seeing mike tonight (curry). I am going to try to corner him for a word about this. I'd like everyone and anyone reading this to comment HERE on whether they think pbman shoudl be banned or not, for his postings on this thread.
ETA; sooner rather than later would help.

I broke with habit and reported one of the offensive posts.

Would I like him banned?
Lets say I was prepared to put up with "the Nazis were left wing", but "Jew commies scared Hitler so bad he had to try to kill all Jews, so the holocaust was the fault of Jews"? That went beyond the pale into Ban-dom and "pbman needs a good kicking"-dom, at least as far as I am concerned, and sod how polite he is.
 
Red Jezza said:
right - action. I am seeing mike tonight (curry). I am going to try to corner him for a word about this. I'd like everyone and anyone reading this to comment HERE on whether they think pbman shoudl be banned or not, for his postings on this thread.
ETA; sooner rather than later would help.
Without wishing to step on the editors toes, if it was up to me i would definetely say yes, he should go.
 
thanks chaps, keep 'em comin'. i'll try post progress report tomorrow.
ETA; if anyone wants a verbal convo, PM me and I'll call ya (nino mate, i got yours, if you recall).
 
ViolentPanda said:
I broke with habit and reported one of the offensive posts.

Would I like him banned?
Lets say I was prepared to put up with "the Nazis were left wing", but "Jew commies scared Hitler so bad he had to try to kill all Jews, so the holocaust was the fault of Jews"? That went beyond the pale into Ban-dom and "pbman needs a good kicking"-dom, at least as far as I am concerned, and sod how polite he is.

He may have freedom of speech but anyone who comes out with vile filth like that should be prepared to accept a fucking good kicking.

I can remember having this argument before on freedom of speech and racists who use that freedom as a shield to defend themselves. There were some who felt that I was going over the top when I said I had the right to knock someone's teeth down their throat should they spout such filth.
 
Red Jezza said:
thanks chaps, keep 'em comin'. i'll try post progress report tomorrow.
ETA; if anyone wants a verbal convo, PM me and I'll call ya (nino mate, i got yours, if you recall).

Sound. :cool:
 
Pbmans recent comments on this thread deserve a banning.

Never mind the cowardly tactic of run away and hide, the chicken-hawk seems to be pushing at the moment.
 
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