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Is the Left Wing more truthful than the Right Wing, and if so, why?

Really? His or her shtick is very familiar. The hatred of the left, referring to the working class as morons/stupid etc.

Not unique views are they.

Look, he spent ages trying to learn how to play the Google Maps game (and failed miserably, which is a shame because we need more players). You don't do that as a banned returner.

He's old, right wing, and has medical problems, some which may be affecting his mental health which, you were right earlier, he projects on to here.

He is now kind of trolling, I wonder if he's ok, but it's making him happy. So 🤷‍♂️
 
Not unique views are they.

Look, he spent ages trying to learn how to play the Google Maps game (and failed miserably, which is a shame because we need more players). You don't do that as a banned returner.

He's old, right wing, and has medical problems, some which may be affecting his mental health which, you were right earlier, he projects on to here.

He is now kind of trolling, I wonder if he's ok, but it's making him happy. So 🤷‍♂️
Fair enough. It's quite sad if that's the case. Although many us here have mental health problems and can get by without trashing the site.
 
Lots of people on here are ill and sometimes get hounded to the sound of applause by some.
Including people who say it's wrong to hound someone who is ill.
Maybe some people know more about one person than another and judge that because of what they know about them, hounding them is unfair.
But they don't then apply that same yardstick to their treatment of others.
 
Lots of people on here are ill and sometimes get hounded to the sound of applause by some.
Including people who say it's wrong to hound someone who is ill.
Maybe some people know more about one person than another and judge that because of what they know about them, hounding them is unfair.
But they don't then apply that same yardstick to their treatment of others.

Well said.
 
Not often I say this, but I think you're being a bit harsh on Marxist-Leninists there, I'm sure there must've been more than a few who did their duty in 84-85 or at Wapping. Or indeed in various US cities during 2020, and at any other number of other times and places. Although I suppose you could argue that by contributing to struggle alongside their fellow proletarians, they were no longer acting as M-Ls, having broken with the essentially Fabian practice of that movement throughout its history.
Lmao, Marxism-Leninism is when CHAZ and ACAB? So is police of any kind, inherently the enemy? Who's gonna protect your precious "autonomous zone"? A revolution must not be restricted to a small area, but an entire nationwide uprising of plentiful of cities. As for Wapping, it was not much of a revolution for it was a mere strike which was necessary against the neoliberal Thatcher government but the police were majorly loyal to Thatcher and so, the printers were defeated sadly in 1987. But the message was clear.

"Workers today can learn a great deal from the Wapping dispute. Only through unity and militancy, armed with a bold socialist programme, can we defeat the bosses and the Tory government that defends their system."

- 30 years on: Memories of the Wapping print strike | The Communist

Sadly, we won't be seeing a Wapping like this because the Labour Party of UK and the Fabianite revisionists are in control of the mainstream left in Britain.
 
The Labour Party is a fraud. if we had proportional representation they wouldn't even get 20%. The only thing that's kept Labour alive for the last 40 years is our completely out of date dilapidated antique antiquated unfair hopeless electoral system first past the post.
The Labour Party is a fraud to the workers. The reason why the Labour party is alive is because they dismissed workers' rights and moved to typical social democratic reactionary electoralism.
 
I think if this thread is to get anywhere, and I'm not hopeful, it would be a good idea to reflect on what 'left wing' means. If you go back to the 19th century and early 20th centuries there emerges a general division into three broad camps in the international labour movement, Marxist, anarchist and reformist. If we lump them all together we just ignore massive theoretical divisions and 150 years of historical and geographical divergence. So my attempt to bring this thread back to some semblance of intellectual rigour goes like this:-
Anarchists - generally good eggs, honest and stalwart.
Reformists - corrupt, boring, two-faced
Marxists - hypocritical, mass-murdering, corrupt
So left-wing is when complete anarchy and rejection of material conditions? Tell me how using the workers' state to clamp down on bourgeois counter-revolution (of whom the bourgeoisie in power used the same methods to counter strikes, rebellions, with same ruthless killings) is the same? Someone whose labor is being sold to the bourgeoisie in your eyes is apparently on the same level of "evil" as the wealthy rich elite man who is overseeing his wage slaves?

I find it funny that you call anarchists as "honest". The most honest part about anarchism is that it results in a dictatorship no matter what. You can't achieve anarchy by skipping the transformation part. Makhno had to use authority to get the looting done but tried to "persuade" people to join his forces, which ofc didn't succeed much since his ideology wasn't as popular as the Bolsheviks, hence his defeat in the 1920s during the civil war. Another honest thing? Ancaps literally just want classical 19th century bourgeois capitalism, not in a form of "anarchy" but in a form of "bourgeois dictatorship", disguised as a "free association of capitalists".

This is how these "anarchist" gentlemen are profoundly mocking the entire Left with their inability to adapt to the material reality.
 
Really? His or her shtick is very familiar. The hatred of the left, referring to the working class as morons/stupid etc.
Jesus, you're the one I'm having a go at, not all the rest. if you hadn't negatively repped me I wouldn't have bothered replying to this thread, but you did, so I expanded on what I had previously written.
 
The "low-IQ" part was unnecessary still. The solution is that the party vanguard educates the workers for a revolutionary overthrow. Unfortunately, Bakunin was the first to oppose the education of workers and he moronically called it "making theorists out of them". Even today, anarchist movements don't cater much to the working class as they think they do.
 
Other people:

Mental illness? it's more like the beginnings of dementia. I am very ill and cannot do things for myself apart from cooking. I can't do anything else, everything else is a struggle. I think I was born this way, it's got nothing to do with the Tories oppressing me or Margaret Thatcher because I can see it in my brother and my two nephews too, (his two sons) all highly intelligent with high IQs, but none of us can tidy up our own places. I question the value of the lives of people like me, I am not having a fun time. But I am not going to pretend my uselessness is the fault of the Tories.

I have a kind of test where I take Bear Gryll's: The Island scenario and ask could they survive on a deserted island? Most mentally ill people despite their big mouths wouldn't survive on a deserted island. They wouldn't have survived in the Stone Age, they wouldn't have survived Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, Kim's North Korea, Pol Pot's Cambodia. Most people on here are not successful, they are struggling in the midst of abundance, Our lives are not that great, so why are we telling everybody else how to live their lives?
 
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I live with the lumpen proletariat and they are as thick as ****! The only intelligent people around here are the immigrants, all the white people that live around here are the “left behinds”.

Now, the test I use, as I told you, is could they survive on Bear Gryll's island, could they have survived in the Stone Age? I don't use academic criteria.
 
Perhaps we should encourage it

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IQ is influenced by a variety of factors, including environment, education, access to resources, and socioeconomic status. While socioeconomic status can impact educational opportunities and access to enriching experiences, it doesn't determine a person's intelligence or potential.

All my family, including my extended family, come from extremely humble backgrounds. my childhood was Not enjoyable and certainly not filled with "educational opportunities" or "enriching experiences" and "access to resources" and "socioeconomic status".

I just feel you are blaming the Tories again.
 
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