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Having just read the above ^ comment, I though to myself 'You know what? I think I do want to know what a cannabis tampon looks like!', only to scroll a little further down and see...



Absolutely no recollection of this :hmm:

Do you at least recall posting the same thing 8 hours earlier?
 
Oh my

2. Ham and cheese sandwich, ready salted crisps and an apple
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A classic if boring lunch
This old-school lunch was given a fancy makeover to become a “Proper Ploughman’s” lunch using the sandwich as a finger sarnie, added in some delicious vegetable focaccia bread (to show the variety of bread can spice up your lunch) and then layered bufala mozzarella with parma ham and spinach.

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Mozzarella makes everything better
Dominique crushed the crisps and sprinkled those throughout to add texture and then finely sliced the apple and layered that throughout to add some freshness.

The simple way to transform your tired packed lunch
 
That is the most confused thing i've read for sometime. Checking the authors CV might reveal why - all things to all mensch.
That is quite some list. Just when you think everything has been explained you scroll down some more.

My favourite is:

"Four stories about bravery and the underlying mental courage it takes to be brave."
 
I don't know what you people expect from a newspaper for free.

Quality, unbiased journalism costs money, and it seems very few of us are even prepared to accept advertising never mind actually paying. The Independent continues to give a voice to some excellent independent journalists. Robert Fisk explaining the current situation in Lebanon is just a single example.

Of the mainstream UK press it remains my preference. They are being forced to sell out like all other printed media (except Private Eye who seem to be continuing their miracle sales increase), simply because we are no longer prepared to pay for quality. Used to buy it daily when I was living in the UK. It offered plenty of alternative views on all sorts of subjects. The printed version in Spain was hard to find and seriously edited. It was also extortionately priced at over €3.

I don't think anyone here can knock any publication for having to cater to a majority audience and advertisers if you aren't prepared to pay for a free press.

So there :p
 
I don't know what you people expect from a newspaper for free.

Quality, unbiased journalism costs money, and it seems very few of us are even prepared to accept advertising never mind actually paying. The Independent continues to give a voice to some excellent independent journalists. Robert Fisk explaining the current situation in Lebanon is just a single example.

Of the mainstream UK press it remains my preference. They are being forced to sell out like all other printed media (except Private Eye who seem to be continuing their miracle sales increase), simply because we are no longer prepared to pay for quality. Used to buy it daily when I was living in the UK. It offered plenty of alternative views on all sorts of subjects. The printed version in Spain was hard to find and seriously edited. It was also extortionately priced at over €3.

I don't think anyone here can knock any publication for having to cater to a majority audience and advertisers if you aren't prepared to pay for a free press.

So there :p

I would happily pay cash money for a non-shit newspaper but there isn't one. Not being shit is a massive gap in the market that nobody seems to want to fill.
 
I would happily pay cash money for a non-shit newspaper but there isn't one. Not being shit is a massive gap in the market that nobody seems to want to fill.

Also, It's a bit shit to blame customers for voting with their feet when news organisations have proven reluctant to adjust their business models in the face of changing markets.
 
I assumed stan foraged his newspapers from the Cafe or the bar or other places where people leave the days paper for others to read (which is decent of them)
 
I would happily pay cash money for a non-shit newspaper but there isn't one. Not being shit is a massive gap in the market that nobody seems to want to fill.

I would happily pay per article.

Perhaps take a €10 electronic credit note and enter my code just to read the stuff I want to read rather than pay for a load of bollocks I have no interest in, nor time to read. Online papers really need to go down this route.
 
I would happily pay per article.

Perhaps take a €10 electronic credit note and enter my code just to read the stuff I want to read rather than pay for a load of bollocks I have no interest in, nor time to read. Online papers really need to go down this route.
Take a look at https://blendle.com/home

It has precisely this model - very successful in the Netherlands apparently. You can sign up for the beta - it's completely US-centric at the moment but I've read some great stuff on there and not yet spent all my $2.50 freebie allocation.
 
Take a look at https://blendle.com/home

It has precisely this model - very successful in the Netherlands apparently. You can sign up for the beta - it's completely US-centric at the moment but I've read some great stuff on there and not yet spent all my $2.50 freebie allocation.

I bet it's successful in the Netherlands - and less so elsewhere - precisely because English-language general news is so commoditised that it is impossible to price. Generally speaking, few in the industry are convinced by micropayments.
 
I bet it's successful in the Netherlands - and less so elsewhere - precisely because English-language general news is so commoditised that it is impossible to price. Generally speaking, few in the industry are convinced by micropayments.
It's not really 'general news' though - it's more indepth stuff and seems to be taken from outlets that have subscription models. You can either sign up for a full subscription to the whole publication or you can use Blendle to pay per article for a selection of the best stuff. At least that's how I understand it.
 
The Independent appears to think Mexico is in Central America:

Hurricane Willa has grown rapidly into an "extremely dangerous" near-Category 5 storm which could smash into Mexico's western coast over on Tuesday, forecasters have warned.

The US National Hurricane Center said it could "produce [a] life threatening storm surge, wind and rainfall" over portions of the Central American country's south and central west.

Hurricane Willa strengthens to 'extremely dangerous' near Category 5 storm over Mexico's Pacific coast
 
In lieu of a proper DOWN THE PAN thread this groyne will have to serve as makeshift harbour...


Let's run through that again - the article is a question, “What happened to the real Chicago 7 and where are they now?”

The sum total of the answer to it is:

According to AARP Magazine, Mr Dellinger passed away in 2004 at 88-years-old and Mr Rubin died in 1994 at 56-years-old. Mr Froines serves as a professor at UCLA, Mr Hayden is an author and Mr Weiner has worked for the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith in New York.

Yes, the stated point of the article is only 5/7 answered, in the final paragraph, based entirely on a piece - unchecked - published in another journal, ten years previously.

In the previous paragraph the author can't even be arsed to give the names of all seven, just taps out at six, like he's too important to fucking google.

Top work!

<Aside> A Marty1 ‘apparently’ is like a treelover ‘...?’
 
Just read an Independent article which referred multiple times to someone called "Michelle Barnier".
 
Really clear headline on front page today:

'Calls for Facebook ban on Islamophobia ‘just like Holocaust denial’

click through and you get the full headline:

Imran Khan writes to Facebook calling for ban on Islamophobia 'just like ban on Holocaust denial'

 
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